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Date:      Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:50:06 +0600 (ALMT)
From:      Boris Popov <bp@butya.kz>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Installation: what to (not) do about it
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0011061137560.99176-100000@lion.butya.kz>
In-Reply-To: <200011031440.HAA16097@usr02.primenet.com>

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On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Terry Lambert wrote:

> o	I'll fix the VFS stacking code; I've had working stacking
> 	without cache coherency problems sinmce 1996, the last
> 	time I tried to submit the patches, and the PTB insisted
> 	I dumb them down to the point that they then could complain
> 	that the changes were gratuitous because they didn't have
> 	the vision to keep their eyes on the goal instead of the
> 	process.

	Could you point me at them ?

> o	I'll provide specfs changes to support clone devices; I
> 	won't go so far as to force ytou to take the other changes
> 	I've made in this area (I currently run without a struct
> 	fileops, and specfs no longer exists, on one of my research
> 	systems; it lets me do things like change ownership on
> 	sockets and named pipes, like SVR4 and Linux can, and BSD
> 	can't -- but I won't force you to take that code).  You
> 	will have to accept the cloning pty implementation sample
> 	code as part of this, so that I can be assured that no one
> 	will break things before the next phase is complete.

	Interesting. At the moment I'm trying to separate specfs vnodes
from filesystem which refers to device using stacked techniques (which are
now have native support in the VFS). This eliminates some weird code, but
currently I'm got stuck with correct locking of vnodes in the stack.

> o	I'll fix the root partition vs. mounted FS distinction
> 	abstraction, and move the mount overlay to higher level
> 	code, so that it isn't being duplicated per VFS, as it is
> 	now (and being omitted in some, making it impossible to
> 	boot from those partitions).

	Also, interesting. Seeing even preliminary patches should shed
some light.

> I would be doing this at pretty high opportunity cost, since my time
> is currently valued at around $120/hr, after taxes.

	Wow :)

--
Boris Popov
http://www.butya.kz/~bp/



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