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Date:      Sun, 21 Apr 2002 18:25:08 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@village.org>
To:        DougB@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory
Message-ID:  <20020421.182508.26145541.imp@village.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020421154112.N17880-100000@master.gorean.org>
References:  <20020421.113046.131323596.imp@village.org> <20020421154112.N17880-100000@master.gorean.org>

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In message: <20020421154112.N17880-100000@master.gorean.org>
            Doug Barton <DougB@FreeBSD.org> writes:
: On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote:
: 
: > In message: <200204200256.g3K2uOu10038@sheol.localdomain>
: >             hawkeyd@visi.com (D J Hawkey Jr) writes:
: > : IMHO, you muddy, if not nullify, the abstract altogether. You are advocating
: > : copying this file down to /etc, and editing it. There goes the concept of
: > : "overriding the values contained in this file".
: >
: > Yes.  /etc/defaults/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf are separated because we
: > wanted to change the defaults from time to time.
: 
: 	Users hate this.

No they don't.  That's just your assertion, but in fact we have
several yaers of evidence to the contrary.  Only when we change the
defaults do people care at all.

: > I agree that copying /etc/defaults/rc.conf is a horrible idea.  Down
: > right stupid and should never be advocated.  *EVER*.  We had that
: > paradigm in FreeBSD 1.x and 2.x and it *DID*NOT*WORK*.  That's the whole
: > reason that we separated things out into two files.
: 
: 	People keep leaving off the rest of the advice I gave, which is to
: set the variables for the things you care about, and delete the rest. I
: think this is perfectly reasonable advice. Relying on the defaults not
: changing for things that are important to your local installation is
: foolhardy, IMO.

Agreed.

Warner

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