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Date:      Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:28:58 +0300
From:      "Penerdzhy R.V." <prv0@yandex.ru>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: freebsd-stable Digest, Vol 101, Issue 9
Message-ID:  <1914821434.20050303142858@yandex.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20050303112003.1AD5E16A4DA@hub.freebsd.org>
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Здравствуйте, freebsd-stable-request.

Вы писали 3 марта 2005 г., 14:20:03:

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fsrfo> Today's Topics:

fsrfo>    1. Re: freebsd-stable Digest, Vol 101, Issue 8 (Penerdzhy R.V.)
fsrfo>    2.   Re: Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for
fsrfo>       FreebBSD 4.10 (Artem Kuchin)
fsrfo>    3.   Re: Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for
fsrfo>       FreebBSD 4.10 (Gerald de la Pascua)
fsrfo>    4.   Re: Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for
fsrfo>       FreebBSD 4.10 (Artem Kuchin)
fsrfo>    5. 1000baseTX? (Yoshiaki Kasahara)
fsrfo>    6. Linking with CUPS Issue (Jake Stride)
fsrfo>    7. Re: Dual booting with Windows XP (Jared Earle)
fsrfo>    8. Need Help With mount_smbfs Error Message (Tim Daneliuk)
fsrfo>    9. Re: Linking with CUPS Issue (Michael C. Shultz)
fsrfo>   10. 4.11-RELEASE panics (Kirill Ponomarew)


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fsrfo> Message: 1
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 11:16:35 +0300
fsrfo> From: "Penerdzhy R.V." <prv0@yandex.ru>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: freebsd-stable Digest, Vol 101, Issue 8
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <1576425481.20050303111635@yandex.ru>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251

fsrfo> Здравствуйте, freebsd-stable-request.

fsrfo> Вы писали 3 марта 2005 г., 11:09:56:

fsrfo>> Send freebsd-stable mailing list submissions to
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fsrfo>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
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fsrfo>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
fsrfo>> than "Re: Contents of freebsd-stable digest..."


fsrfo>> Today's Topics:

fsrfo>>    1. Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for FreebBSD
fsrfo>>       4.10 (Artem Kuchin)
fsrfo>>    2. Re: Can FreeBSD be installed on
fsrfo>> DellPowerEdge2800 ? (Art Mason)
fsrfo>>    3. 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001) (Thomas Krause)
fsrfo>>    4. Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001) (Scot Hetzel)
fsrfo>>    5. Re: "ioctl DIOCSMBR: Operation not permitted" from "boot0cfg
fsrfo>>       -s 1" (Doug Ambrisko)
fsrfo>>    6. Re: Build install error in latest RELENG_5 (M. Warner Losh)
fsrfo>>    7. Re: building KLDs in RELENG_4 (M. Warner Losh)
fsrfo>>    8. Re: building KLDs in RELENG_4 (M. Warner Losh)
fsrfo>>    9. Re: Build install error in latest RELENG_5 (Ruslan Ermilov)
fsrfo>>   10. Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001) (Colin Percival)
fsrfo>>   11. Re: kernel config: sound device with or without quotes
fsrfo>>       (Freddie Cash)
fsrfo>>   12. ueagle(4) driver merging (Mateusz J?drasik)
fsrfo>>   13. Re: kernel config: sound device with or without quotes
fsrfo>>       (Peter Jeremy)
fsrfo>>   14. Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites. (Brian Behlendorf)
fsrfo>>   15. Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001)  (Kevin Oberman)
fsrfo>>   16. Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001)  (Kevin Oberman)
fsrfo>>   17. Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites. (Daniel Eischen)
fsrfo>>   18. Re: ueagle(4) driver merging (Daniel O'Connor)
fsrfo>>   19. Re: ueagle(4) driver merging (Daniel O'Connor)
fsrfo>>   20. Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites. (Brian Behlendorf)
fsrfo>>   21. Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites. (Daniel Eischen)
fsrfo>>   22. Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites. (Pete French)
fsrfo>>   23. Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites. (Eric Schuele)
fsrfo>>   24. Dual booting with Windows XP (Didier Caamano)
fsrfo>>   25. 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted) (Edwin Brown)
fsrfo>>   26. Re: Crash when PREEMPTION enabled (Kris Kennaway)
fsrfo>>   27. Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo>>       (Michael C. Shultz)
fsrfo>>   28. Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo>>       (Edwin Brown)
fsrfo>>   29. ndis problem with stable kernel source (Nicholas Basila)
fsrfo>>   30. Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo>>       (Edwin Brown)
fsrfo>>   31. Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo>>       (Michael C. Shultz)
fsrfo>>   32.   Re: Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for
fsrfo>>       FreebBSD 4.10 (pete wright)
fsrfo>>   33. Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source (Daniel O'Connor)
fsrfo>>   34. Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source (Daniel O'Connor)
fsrfo>>   35. Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source (Nicholas Basila)
fsrfo>>   36. Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source (pcasidy@casidy.com)
fsrfo>>   37. -PRErelease and ACPI: no PRT entry for 0.1.INTA (Emanuel Strobl)
fsrfo>>   38. Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source (Daniel O'Connor)
fsrfo>>   39. Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source (Nicholas Basila)


fsrfo>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 1
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:27:07 +0300
fsrfo>> From: "Artem Kuchin" <matrix@itlegion.ru>
fsrfo>> Subject: Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for FreebBSD
fsrfo>>         4.10
fsrfo>> To: "FreeBSD Stable" <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <024601c51f33$eda69e40$0c00a8c0@artem>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain;       format=flowed;  charset="ISO-8859-1";
fsrfo>>         reply-type=original

fsrfo>> Can anybody recommend cheap IDE mirroring PCI (2.0, not 2.1 or 2.2)
fsrfo>> controller with just 2 IDE ports which works fine with FreeBSD 4.10 ?

fsrfo>> It is to be installed on a very old motherboard (1998) and two 40GB IDE
fsrfo>> driver (more or less modern ones, at least not used ones for  sure).

fsrfo>> --
fsrfo>> Regards,
fsrfo>> Artem Kuchin
fsrfo>> IT Legion Ltd.
fsrfo>> Moscow, Russia
fsrfo>> www.itlegion.ru
fsrfo>> matrix@itlegion.ru
fsrfo>> +7 095 232-0338



fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 2
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 08:25:40 -0600
fsrfo>> From: Art Mason <amason@rackspace.com>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD be installed on DellPowerEdge2800 ?
fsrfo>> To: Vinny Abello <vinny@tellurian.com>
fsrfo>> Cc: Kipp Holger <h.kipp@eurowings.com>
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <4225CCE4.3080304@rackspace.com>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

fsrfo>> Yeah, I cam across that on some mailing list archives, but saw some
fsrfo>> additional references that this can cause issues with the amr driver.
fsrfo>> Have you experienced any instability issues with the amr driver and PAE
fsrfo>> enabled?  If not, then I'll give this a shot on one of our lab boxes for
fsrfo>> testing.  Thanks for the suggestion, BTW.

fsrfo>> --

fsrfo>> Art Mason
fsrfo>> Technical Support - Team F
fsrfo>> Rackspace Managed Hosting
fsrfo>> (800) 961-4454 ext. 4290
fsrfo>> amason@rackspace.com


fsrfo>> Vinny Abello wrote:
>>> FYI, the architecture of the 2850 (assuming it is similar to your 2800)
>>> requires that you enable PAE support in your kernel of whatever OS you
>>> run to address the full 4GB of RAM. This is due in some part because of
>>> the memory mapping that was done for the PCI express bus and/or onboard
>>> Perc controller (per Dell tech support). We've run into this with all of
>>> our 2850's with various OS's and enabling PAE (per Dell's advice) fixes it.
>>> 
>>> At 05:50 PM 3/1/2005, Art Mason wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Indeed, just installed on a customer's server last night, and I build
>>>> SMP support into the GENERIC kernel this morning.  Only issues I 
>>>> encountered has to do w/ recognizing the full 4GB of RAM, but this
>>>> apparently has some compatibility issues w/ the amr driver.
>>>> As per Holger's comments about disabling USB in BIOS, this is a good
>>>> suggestion, since the DRAC apparently causes some IRQ issues w/ the
>>>> PS/2 keyboard controller, or something along those lines.  Regardless,
>>>> these 2850 boxes are stupid fast, and I'm looking forward to 
>>>> benchmarking 5.3 on them.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>> Art Mason
>>>> Technical Support - Team F
>>>> Rackspace Managed Hosting
>>>> (800) 961-4454 ext. 4290
>>>> amason@rackspace.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kipp Holger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue 01.03.2005 17:49, lhmwzy wrote:
>>>>> Please reply to hk at alogis dot com. This is not my native
>>>>> account.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Can FreeBSD be installed on DellPowerEdge2800 ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody did this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any help is appreciateed?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Boot from FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-CD and install. No problems
>>>>> so far. You might want to disable USB within BIOS, though,
>>>>> because they seem to be shared with other critical devices
>>>>> (nics and raidcontroller). But I don't use USB anyway.
>>>>> Then you might want to upgrade to 5-STABLE.
>>>>> This is on Dell PowerEdge 2800 with 2GB ECC RAM,
>>>>> 4 x 36GB SCSI and amrd-Controller (PERC-4-something).
>>>>> Binary copy of SAP 4.6C and Oracle 8 (from a working
>>>>> installation on FreeBSD 4.x) works nearly without changes
>>>>> (using emulators/linux_base-suse-9.1 and one additional
>>>>> rpm (some compatibility-thing)).
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Holger Kipp
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list
>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to 
>>>>> "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Vinny Abello
>>> Network Engineer
>>> Server Management
>>> vinny@tellurian.com
>>> (973)300-9211 x 125
>>> (973)940-6125 (Direct)
>>> PGP Key Fingerprint: 3BC5 9A48 FC78 03D3 82E0  E935 5325 FBCB 0100 977A
>>> 
>>> Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection
>>> http://www.tellurian.com (888)TELLURIAN
>>> 
>>> "Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear - not absence of fear"
>>> -- Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 3
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:07:04 +0100 (CET)
fsrfo>> From: "Thomas Krause" <freebsd-stable@chef-ingenieur.de>
fsrfo>> Subject: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001)
fsrfo>> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID:
fsrfo>> <2481.212.78.101.51.1109776024.squirrel@mta.webmatic.de>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

fsrfo>> Hello,
fsrfo>> when starting ntpd at boot time, I've 2 ntpd's running:

fsrfo>> gate:/ # ps auxw | grep ntp
fsrfo>> root   407  0.0  0.7  2944 1752  ??  Ss    3:54PM   0:00.02 /usr/sbin/ntpd
fsrfo>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
fsrfo>> root   417  0.0  0.7  2944 1776  ??  S     3:54PM   0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd
fsrfo>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift

fsrfo>> gate:/ # ntpq
ntpq>>> peers
fsrfo>> No association ID's returned

fsrfo>> After restarting, I've one daemon and all is running fine:

fsrfo>> gate:/ # /etc/rc.d/ntpd restart
fsrfo>> Stopping ntpd.
fsrfo>> Starting ntpd.

fsrfo>> gate:/ # ps auxw | grep ntp
fsrfo>> root   566  0.0  0.7  2944 1784  ??  Ss    4:04PM   0:00.02 /usr/sbin/ntpd
fsrfo>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift

fsrfo>> Any idea why? I' running 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001.

fsrfo>> Kind regards,
fsrfo>> Thomas.


fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 4
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:53:59 -0600
fsrfo>> From: Scot Hetzel <swhetzel@gmail.com>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001)
fsrfo>> To: Thomas Krause <freebsd-stable@chef-ingenieur.de>
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <790a9fff05030207536d59cb17@mail.gmail.com>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:07:04 +0100 (CET), Thomas Krause
fsrfo>> <freebsd-stable@chef-ingenieur.de> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> when starting ntpd at boot time, I've 2 ntpd's running:
>>> 
>>> gate:/ # ps auxw | grep ntp
>>> root   407  0.0  0.7  2944 1752  ??  Ss    3:54PM   0:00.02 /usr/sbin/ntpd
>>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
>>> root   417  0.0  0.7  2944 1776  ??  S     3:54PM   0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd
>>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
>>> 
>>> gate:/ # ntpq
>>> ntpq> peers
>>> No association ID's returned
>>> 
>>> After restarting, I've one daemon and all is running fine:
>>> 
>>> gate:/ # /etc/rc.d/ntpd restart
>>> Stopping ntpd.
>>> Starting ntpd.
>>> 
>>> gate:/ # ps auxw | grep ntp
>>> root   566  0.0  0.7  2944 1784  ??  Ss    4:04PM   0:00.02 /usr/sbin/ntpd
>>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
>>> 
>>> Any idea why? I' running 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001.
>>> 
fsrfo>> It could be that you have 2 scripts that are starting ntpd, check your
fsrfo>> rc.d directories:

fsrfo>> grep ntp /etc/rc.d/* /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*

fsrfo>> Scot

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 5
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 08:09:22 -0800 (PST)
fsrfo>> From: Doug Ambrisko <ambrisko@ambrisko.com>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: "ioctl DIOCSMBR: Operation not permitted" from "boot0cfg
fsrfo>>         -s 1"
fsrfo>> To: David Wolfskill <david@catwhisker.org>
fsrfo>> Cc: stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <200503021609.j22G9MN3041308@ambrisko.com>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo>> David Wolfskill writes:
fsrfo>> | freebeast(5.4-P)[1] sudo boot0cfg -s 1 -v ad0
fsrfo>> | Password:
fsrfo>> | boot0cfg: /dev/ad0: ioctl DIOCSMBR: Operation not permitted
fsrfo>> | freebeast(5.4-P)[2] 

fsrfo>> You might try:
fsrfo>>         sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16

fsrfo>> Doug A.

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 6
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 09:13:22 -0700 (MST)
fsrfo>> From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: Build install error in latest RELENG_5
fsrfo>> To: veldy@veldy.net
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <20050302.091322.112684861.imp@bsdimp.com>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii

fsrfo>> In message: <421DE027.70204@veldy.net>
fsrfo>>             "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net> writes:
fsrfo>> : Right away ... first thing!
fsrfo>> : 
fsrfo>> :
fsrfo>> --------------------------------------------------------------
:  >>>>> Installing everything
fsrfo>> :
fsrfo>> --------------------------------------------------------------
fsrfo>> : cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 install
: ===>>> share/info
fsrfo>> : install -o root -g wheel -m 444  dir-tmpl /usr/share/info/dir
: ===>>> include
fsrfo>> : creating osreldate.h from newvers.sh
fsrfo>> : touch: not found

fsrfo>> You have one of the canonical problems:

fsrfo>> (1) Time skew between building machine and installing machine
fsrfo>> (2) The path to the sources isn't exactly identical, in its canonical
fsrfo>>     form, between building machine and installing machine
fsrfo>> (3) MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX is different between building and installing.

fsrfo>> Warner

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 7
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 09:14:15 -0700 (MST)
fsrfo>> From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: building KLDs in RELENG_4
fsrfo>> To: sirmoo@cowbert.2y.net
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <20050302.091415.101560664.imp@bsdimp.com>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii

fsrfo>> In message: <20050224145622.GE261@cowbert.2y.net>
fsrfo>>             "Peter C. Lai" <sirmoo@cowbert.2y.net> writes:
fsrfo>> : Is there a way to build kernel modules by
fsrfo>> themselves without having to
fsrfo>> : build the entire kernel? I am adding umass support to a 4.x machine but
fsrfo>> : I don't want to build the entire kernel. I already have scbus, but I need
fsrfo>> : da and of course, umass.

fsrfo>> cd src/sys/modules/umass ; make all install clean

fsrfo>> This assumes that the sources match what's on the system.

fsrfo>> Warner

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 8
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 09:15:16 -0700 (MST)
fsrfo>> From: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: building KLDs in RELENG_4
fsrfo>> To: sirmoo@cowbert.2y.net
fsrfo>> Cc: swhetzel@gmail.com
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <20050302.091516.51358208.imp@bsdimp.com>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii

fsrfo>> In message: <20050224161305.GG261@cowbert.2y.net>
fsrfo>>             "Peter C. Lai" <sirmoo@cowbert.2y.net> writes:
fsrfo>> : On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 09:59:01AM -0600, Scot Hetzel wrote:
: >>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:56:22 -0500, Peter C. Lai
: >>> <sirmoo@cowbert.2y.net> wrote:
: >>> > Is there a way to build kernel modules by themselves without having to
: >>> > build the entire kernel? I am adding umass support to a 4.x machine but
: >>> > I don't want to build the entire kernel. I already have scbus, but I need
: >>> > da and of course, umass.
: >>> > 
: >>>  
: >>> Yes you can build modules seperately from a kernel build
: >>> 
: >>> cd /usr/src/sys/modules/umass
: >>> make obj
: >>> make
: >>> make install
: >>> 
: >>> Scot
fsrfo>> : 
fsrfo>> : ok. what about da? i don't have that in my kernel, even though i have scbus.
fsrfo>> : I think i'm just going to recompile the entire kernel anyway; I was just
fsrfo>> : trying to not have to back-cvs /usr/src to patch the current one I have
fsrfo>> : installed. (the more basic problem is i really should be keeping multiple
fsrfo>> : versions of /usr/src around for different versions on different machines,
fsrfo>> : but that is a separate problem).

fsrfo>> modules/cam is what you want.  Hmmm, looks like you have part of it in
fsrfo>> your kernel already, so you'll not be able to do what you want.

fsrfo>> Warner

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 9
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:56:45 +0200
fsrfo>> From: Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: Build install error in latest RELENG_5
fsrfo>> To: "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
fsrfo>> Cc: veldy@veldy.net
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <20050302165645.GB49216@ip.net.ua>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

fsrfo>> On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 09:13:22AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>>> In message: <421DE027.70204@veldy.net>
>>>             "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net> writes:
>>> : Right away ... first thing!
>>> : 
>>> : --------------------------------------------------------------
>>> :  >>> Installing everything
>>> : --------------------------------------------------------------
>>> : cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 install
>>> : ===> share/info
>>> : install -o root -g wheel -m 444  dir-tmpl /usr/share/info/dir
>>> : ===> include
>>> : creating osreldate.h from newvers.sh
>>> : touch: not found
>>> 
>>> You have one of the canonical problems:
>>> 
>>> (1) Time skew between building machine and installing machine
>>> (2) The path to the sources isn't exactly identical, in its canonical
>>>     form, between building machine and installing machine
>>> (3) MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX is different between building and installing.
>>> 
fsrfo>> Besides, for NFS installs (by mounting /usr/src and /usr/obj and doing
fsrfo>> install) to work at all, the following conditions all must be met:

fsrfo>> 1)  Architecture on both machines should be the same,
fsrfo>> 2)  CPUs on both machines should be compatible [*],
fsrfo>> 3)  FreeBSD versions should be IDENTICAL,
fsrfo>> 4)  The contents of /etc/make.conf should be compatible.

fsrfo>> [*] Or the world on the build machine should be built with CFLAGS
fsrfo>> compatible with the CPU on the install machine.


fsrfo>> Cheers,
fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> Ruslan Ermilov
fsrfo>> ru@FreeBSD.org
fsrfo>> FreeBSD committer
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fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 10
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 17:15:18 +0000
fsrfo>> From: Colin Percival <cperciva@freebsd.org>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001)
fsrfo>> To: Thomas Krause <freebsd-stable@chef-ingenieur.de>
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <4225F4A6.8010200@freebsd.org>
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fsrfo>> Thomas Krause wrote:
>>> when starting ntpd at boot time, I've 2 ntpd's running:
>>> [...]
>>> Any idea why? I' running 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001.

fsrfo>> 1. You have some host names in ntp.conf which need to be resolved, and
fsrfo>> 2. At the time ntpd starts, the resolver isn't running.

fsrfo>> For some reason, ntpd makes one attempt to look up names in DNS and then
fsrfo>> goes into an infinite loop.

fsrfo>> Colin Percival

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 11
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:20:42 -0800
fsrfo>> From: Freddie Cash <fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: kernel config: sound device with or without quotes
fsrfo>> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <200503020920.43155.fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

fsrfo>> On March 2, 2005 02:46 am, Rob wrote:
>>> In /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES is the list of supported
>>> sound devices. I get confused by the pressence and
>>> absence of quotes here. Are these quotes only
>>> decoration, or really needed. For example:

>>> device          "snd_ad1816"
>>> device          snd_cmi

>>> If they are needed, it confuses me why one sound
>>> device needs quotes, and another doesn't?

fsrfo>> You have to put quotes around any device names with numbers in them.  If
fsrfo>> you don't, the kernel config will error out.

>>> How does that affect the use of loading them in
>>> /boot/loader.conf? How about following two:

fsrfo>> It doesn't affect loader.conf.  You only put quotes around the value of
fsrfo>> the variable ("YES" or "NO") not around the variable names.

>>> snd_ad1816_load="YES"
>>> snd_cmi_load="YES"

>>> Is that OK?

fsrfo>> Yes.

fsrfo>> However, if you add the devices to the kernel config file, you don't
fsrfo>> need to add them to loader.conf.  loader.conf is used to load kernel
fsrfo>> modules.  You need to decide whether to compile all devices into the
fsrfo>> kernel, or load some as kernel modules.

fsrfo>> Personally, I like to put devices that won't change (like USB, ATA, SMB,
fsrfo>> etc) into the kernel config file.  And load devices that will change
fsrfo>> (like NICs, soundcards, etc) as modules via loader.conf.  Saves time
fsrfo>> and effort when I decide to swap out NICs and test soundcards and
fsrfo>> similar.

fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> Freddie Cash, CCNT CCLP        Helpdesk / Network Support Tech.
fsrfo>> School District 73             (250) 377-HELP [377-4357]
fsrfo>> fcash-ml@sd73.bc.ca

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 12
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 18:55:23 +0100
fsrfo>> From: Mateusz J?drasik<imachine@toya.net.pl>
fsrfo>> Subject: ueagle(4) driver merging
fsrfo>> To: stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <4225FE0B.1000604@toya.net.pl>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed

fsrfo>> Hi,

fsrfo>> I wonder how is the FreeBSD team looking on the driver ueagle written by
fsrfo>> one Damien Bergamini. It is a ADSL modem driver which connects using
fsrfo>> USB, a quite popular solution in Poland, and France as well, aparently.

fsrfo>> Is the idea of FreeBSD to merge such driver as a hack to the umodem
fsrfo>> code, or to stay in tune with Damien's solution and merge the whole driver?

fsrfo>> I would really like to see such a driver supported inside of the FreeBSD
fsrfo>> system itself since it would make me feel much more comfortable using a
fsrfo>> somewhat FreeBSD oficially supported code than third party patching.

fsrfo>> Here follows some more information regarding the project:

fsrfo>> http://damien.bergamini.free.fr/ueagle/index.html

fsrfo>> Cheers,

fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> Mateusz Jкdrasik <imachine@toya.net.pl>

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 13
fsrfo>> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 05:51:36 +1100
fsrfo>> From: Peter Jeremy <PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: kernel config: sound device with or without quotes
fsrfo>> To: Rob <spamrefuse@yahoo.com>
fsrfo>> Cc: FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <20050302185136.GA2302@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

fsrfo>> On Wed, 2005-Mar-02 02:46:41 -0800, Rob wrote:
>>>In /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES is the list of supported
>>>sound devices. I get confused by the pressence and
>>>absence of quotes here. Are these quotes only
>>>decoration, or really needed. For example:
>>>
>>>device          "snd_ad1816"
>>>device          snd_cmi
>>>
>>>If they are needed, it confuses me why one sound
>>>device needs quotes, and another doesn't?

fsrfo>> For hysterical raisins, config(8) parses bareword arguments to "device" as
fsrfo>> <perl>
fsrfo>>         ($device_name, $device_instance) = /([a-zA-Z_]+)([0-9]*)/;
fsrfo>> </perl>

fsrfo>> The double quotes force the first entry to be treated as a device
fsrfo>> "snd_ad1816", rather than the 1817th instance of "snd_ad".

>>>How does that affect the use of loading them in
>>>/boot/loader.conf? How about following two:
>>>
>>>snd_ad1816_load="YES"
>>>snd_cmi_load="YES"
>>>
>>>Is that OK?

fsrfo>> Yes.  The loader has a different parsing algorithm:
fsrfo>> ${device_name}_load="{YES,NO}"
fsrfo>> and
fsrfo>> hint.$device_name.$device_instance.flag="VALUE"

fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> Peter Jeremy

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 14
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:06:27 -0800 (PST)
fsrfo>> From: Brian Behlendorf <brian@collab.net>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.
fsrfo>> To: Ruben van Staveren <ruben@verweg.com>
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <20050302150553.N84651@paz.hyperreal.org>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

fsrfo>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Ruben van Staveren wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 12:23:42AM +0200, Ege Mukan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nowavadays whenever I want to surf on websites which contains flash
>>>> things my firefox or mozilla shuts itself.
>>>>
>>>> Did you ever encounter this problem. And if you'd how did you eliminate ???
>>>
>>> Are you using Xorg6.8.1 and have enabled the Composite extension ?
>>>
>>> (as in
>>>
>>> Section "Extensions"
>>>        Option "Composite" "Enable"
>>> EndSection
>>>
>>> )
>>>
>>> Then add this line to /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox, just beneath the #! /bin/sh
>>>
>>> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1

fsrfo>> Didn't make a difference with native builds of www/firefox v 1.0.1 and
fsrfo>> www/flashplugin-firefox 0.4.12.

fsrfo>>         Brian


fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 15
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 15:07:55 -0800
fsrfo>> From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001) 
fsrfo>> To: "Thomas Krause" <freebsd-stable@chef-ingenieur.de>
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <20050302230755.7A0F05D07@ptavv.es.net>

>>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:07:04 +0100 (CET)
>>> From: "Thomas Krause" <freebsd-stable@chef-ingenieur.de>
>>> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> when starting ntpd at boot time, I've 2 ntpd's running:
>>> 
>>> gate:/ # ps auxw | grep ntp
>>> root   407  0.0  0.7  2944 1752  ??  Ss    3:54PM   0:00.02 /usr/sbin/ntpd
>>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
>>> root   417  0.0  0.7  2944 1776  ??  S     3:54PM   0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd
>>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
>>> 
>>> gate:/ # ntpq
>>> ntpq> peers
>>> No association ID's returned
>>> 
>>> After restarting, I've one daemon and all is running fine:
>>> 
>>> gate:/ # /etc/rc.d/ntpd restart
>>> Stopping ntpd.
>>> Starting ntpd.
>>> 
>>> gate:/ # ps auxw | grep ntp
>>> root   566  0.0  0.7  2944 1784  ??  Ss    4:04PM   0:00.02 /usr/sbin/ntpd
>>> -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
>>> 
>>> Any idea why? I' running 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001.

fsrfo>> Either you have two commands to start ntpd in /etc/rc.d or (more likely)
fsrfo>> the parent process is never exiting.  When ntpd starts, it forks a child
fsrfo>> process (the daemon) and exits. I have seen cases where the parent
fsrfo>> process never exits because the child never properly starts.

fsrfo>> That said, I have never seen this happen on a FreeBSD system, so it may
fsrfo>> be that you are starting it twice. But this seems a bit unlikely as the
fsrfo>> second daemon should exit immediately because the network socket is
fsrfo>> already in use. But it's possible that they are stating so close
fsrfo>> together that a race condition is locking things up. (Just speculation.)
fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
fsrfo>> Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
fsrfo>> Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
fsrfo>> E-mail: oberman@es.net                  Phone: +1 510 486-8634

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 16
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 15:11:23 -0800
fsrfo>> From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: 2 ntpd (5.3-STABLE-SNAP001) 
fsrfo>> To: Colin Percival <cperciva@freebsd.org>
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <20050302231123.D14555D07@ptavv.es.net>

>>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 17:15:18 +0000
>>> From: Colin Percival <cperciva@freebsd.org>
>>> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
>>> 
>>> Thomas Krause wrote:
>>> > when starting ntpd at boot time, I've 2 ntpd's running:
>>> > [...]
>>> > Any idea why? I' running 5.3-STABLE-SNAP001.
>>> 
>>> 1. You have some host names in ntp.conf which need to be resolved, and
>>> 2. At the time ntpd starts, the resolver isn't running.
>>> 
>>> For some reason, ntpd makes one attempt to look up names in DNS and then
>>> goes into an infinite loop.

fsrfo>> Good idea. Yes, the DNS resolution in ntpd is really, really stupid. I
fsrfo>> always specify addresses in ntp.conf for this reason and the fact that
fsrfo>> it there are multiple addresses only the first returned will be
fsrfo>> tried. It never fails over if that one is dead. (And, should an IPv6
fsrfo>> address be available on a system that does not have IPv6
fsrfo>> connectivity...).
fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
fsrfo>> Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
fsrfo>> Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
fsrfo>> E-mail: oberman@es.net                  Phone: +1 510 486-8634

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 17
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 18:56:36 -0500 (EST)
fsrfo>> From: Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.
fsrfo>> To: Brian Behlendorf <brian@collab.net>
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID:
fsrfo>> <Pine.GSO.4.43.0503021855350.28715-100000@sea.ntplx.net>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Brian Behlendorf wrote:

>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Ruben van Staveren wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Are you using Xorg6.8.1 and have enabled the Composite extension ?
>>> >
>>> > (as in
>>> >
>>> > Section "Extensions"
>>> >        Option "Composite" "Enable"
>>> > EndSection
>>> >
>>> > )
>>> >
>>> > Then add this line to /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox, just beneath the #! /bin/sh
>>> >
>>> > export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
>>>
>>> Didn't make a difference with native builds of www/firefox v 1.0.1 and
>>> www/flashplugin-firefox 0.4.12.

fsrfo>> Why don't you run firefox with -g and get a dump and backtrace
fsrfo>> out of it?

fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> DE


fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 18
fsrfo>> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 10:43:43 +1030
fsrfo>> From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: ueagle(4) driver merging
fsrfo>> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Cc: stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <200503031043.52675.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2"

fsrfo>> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 04:25, Mateusz Jкdrasik wrote:
>>> Is the idea of FreeBSD to merge such driver as a hack to the umodem
>>> code, or to stay in tune with Damien's solution and merge the whole driver?

fsrfo>> umodem is for serial modems not ADSL. I believe ADSL modems tend to send
fsrfo>> either ATM or ethernet frames whereas umodem deals with RS232 like devices.

fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
fsrfo>> for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
fsrfo>> "The nice thing about standards is that there
fsrfo>> are so many of them to choose from."
fsrfo>>   -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 19
fsrfo>> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 10:43:43 +1030
fsrfo>> From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: ueagle(4) driver merging
fsrfo>> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Cc: stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <200503031043.52675.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
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fsrfo>> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 04:25, Mateusz Jкdrasik wrote:
>>> Is the idea of FreeBSD to merge such driver as a hack to the umodem
>>> code, or to stay in tune with Damien's solution and merge the whole driver?

fsrfo>> umodem is for serial modems not ADSL. I believe ADSL modems tend to send
fsrfo>> either ATM or ethernet frames whereas umodem deals with RS232 like devices.

fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
fsrfo>> for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
fsrfo>> "The nice thing about standards is that there
fsrfo>> are so many of them to choose from."
fsrfo>>   -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 20
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 16:16:22 -0800 (PST)
fsrfo>> From: Brian Behlendorf <brian@hyperreal.org>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.
fsrfo>> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <20050302161410.X84651@paz.hyperreal.org>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed

fsrfo>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Daniel Eischen wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Ruben van Staveren wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you using Xorg6.8.1 and have enabled the Composite extension ?
>>>>>
>>>>> (as in
>>>>>
>>>>> Section "Extensions"
>>>>>        Option "Composite" "Enable"
>>>>> EndSection
>>>>>
>>>>> )
>>>>>
>>>>> Then add this line to /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox, just beneath the #! /bin/sh
>>>>>
>>>>> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
>>>>
>>>> Didn't make a difference with native builds of www/firefox v 1.0.1 and
>>>> www/flashplugin-firefox 0.4.12.
>>>
>>> Why don't you run firefox with -g and get a dump and backtrace
>>> out of it?

fsrfo>> Because, as I said earlier this thread:

fsrfo>>    I do try it every couple of weeks to see if it works, but the best it
fsrfo>>    gets is two-three web sites and then the seg fault. I realize until I
fsrfo>>    sit down with a stack trace I haven't earned the right to complain, so I
fsrfo>>    haven't yet, figuring it'll be important enough someday to someone
fsrfo>>    clueful enough.  Or, Macromedia will some day lighten up and let Mozilla
fsrfo>>    include it as part of the web browser by default.  Or something.

fsrfo>> ...and that I've got nowhere near the chops to do anything useful with a
fsrfo>> stack trace that I'm sure others do.  I thought I'd pipe up in response to
fsrfo>> Ruben's message to provide a data point.  Am I the only one for whom
fsrfo>> Firefox and www/flashplugin-firefox doesn't work?

fsrfo>>         Brian


fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 21
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:31:36 -0500 (EST)
fsrfo>> From: Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.
fsrfo>> To: Brian Behlendorf <brian@hyperreal.org>
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID:
fsrfo>> <Pine.GSO.4.43.0503021926300.28715-100000@sea.ntplx.net>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Brian Behlendorf wrote:

>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Daniel Eischen wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Why don't you run firefox with -g and get a dump and backtrace
>>> > out of it?
>>>
>>> Because, as I said earlier this thread:
>>>
>>>    I do try it every couple of weeks to see if it works, but the best it
>>>    gets is two-three web sites and then the seg fault. I realize until I
>>>    sit down with a stack trace I haven't earned the right to complain, so I
>>>    haven't yet, figuring it'll be important enough someday to someone
>>>    clueful enough.  Or, Macromedia will some day lighten up and let Mozilla
>>>    include it as part of the web browser by default.  Or something.
>>>
>>> ...and that I've got nowhere near the chops to do anything useful with a
>>> stack trace that I'm sure others do.  I thought I'd pipe up in response to
>>> Ruben's message to provide a data point.  Am I the only one for whom
>>> Firefox and www/flashplugin-firefox doesn't work?

fsrfo>> Is it that hard to type 'firefox -g', alias firefox="firefox -g", or
fsrfo>> whatever, and use it that way for a few days to see if you can
fsrfo>> get a trace?  I'm just wondering if it has the same problem
fsrfo>> as linuxpluginwrapper, or bad assumptions about mutexes
fsrfo>> being recursive or unlocking one you don't own.

fsrfo>> Most folks I know use the linuxpluginwrapper so we don't have
fsrfo>> any experience with the native flash player.  I think I recall
fsrfo>> trying it and it not working, hence the use of linuxpluginwrapper.

fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> DE


fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 22
fsrfo>> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:54:23 +0000
fsrfo>> From: Pete French <petefrench@ticketswitch.com>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.
fsrfo>> To: brian@hyperreal.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <E1D6ebf-000Dcm-Ut@dilbert.firstcallgroup.co.uk>

>>> Ruben's message to provide a data point.  Am I the only one for whom
>>> Firefox and www/flashplugin-firefox doesn't work?

fsrfo>> No, it doesnt work for me either - but I dont care enough about
fsrfo>> websites with mflash to bother looking into it.

fsrfo>> -pcf.

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 23
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 22:22:58 -0600
fsrfo>> From: Eric Schuele <e.schuele@computer.org>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: I can not surf on Flash powered sites.
fsrfo>> To: Brian Behlendorf <brian@hyperreal.org>
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <42269122.7000505@computer.org>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

fsrfo>> Brian Behlendorf wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Daniel Eischen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Ruben van Staveren wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you using Xorg6.8.1 and have enabled the Composite extension ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (as in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Section "Extensions"
>>>>>>        Option "Composite" "Enable"
>>>>>> EndSection
>>>>>>
>>>>>> )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then add this line to /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox, just beneath the #!
>>>>>> /bin/sh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't make a difference with native builds of www/firefox v 1.0.1 and
>>>>> www/flashplugin-firefox 0.4.12.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you run firefox with -g and get a dump and backtrace
>>>> out of it?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Because, as I said earlier this thread:
>>> 
>>>   I do try it every couple of weeks to see if it works, but the best it
>>>   gets is two-three web sites and then the seg fault. I realize until I
>>>   sit down with a stack trace I haven't earned the right to complain, so I
>>>   haven't yet, figuring it'll be important enough someday to someone
>>>   clueful enough.  Or, Macromedia will some day lighten up and let Mozilla
>>>   include it as part of the web browser by default.  Or something.
>>> 
>>> ...and that I've got nowhere near the chops to do anything useful with a
>>> stack trace that I'm sure others do.  I thought I'd pipe up in response
>>> to Ruben's message to provide a data point.  Am I the only one for whom
>>> Firefox and www/flashplugin-firefox doesn't work?
>>> 

fsrfo>> Fails for me too.  On all flash sites near as I can tell.

fsrfo>> -Eric

>>>     Brian
>>> 
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fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> Regards,
fsrfo>> Eric

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 24
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 21:40:28 -0700
fsrfo>> From: Didier Caamano <nemesisdivina@gennux.ca>
fsrfo>> Subject: Dual booting with Windows XP
fsrfo>> To: FreeBSD Mailing List <stable@freebsd.org>
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <4226953C.7080107@gennux.ca>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

fsrfo>> Hello everyone:

fsrfo>> This might sound rather foolish, but I need some assistance on how to
fsrfo>> dual boot FBSD 5.3 with WinXP.

fsrfo>> I have to Hard Drives, Windows is in the first drive, and I want to
fsrfo>> install FBSD on the second. No in the installation process I choose to
fsrfo>> create the partitions to the second Hard Drive, then it ask me if I want
fsrfo>> to install the boot manager, to which I answer yes, then it ask me where
fsrfo>> to install it, and I choose to the First Hard drive, is that ok? well,
fsrfo>> what happens is that after I choose the installer send me to disklabel
fsrfo>> to slice the Hard drive, but it show the First hard drive.

fsrfo>> am I making any sense at all? I thought that
fsrfo>> installing the boot manager
fsrfo>> was going to be a straigh forward process, is there anything wrong with
fsrfo>> what I am experiencing? Any help will be appreciated.

fsrfo>> Good night everyone

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 25
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 23:48:19 -0500
fsrfo>> From: Edwin Brown <edwin.brown@gmail.com>
fsrfo>> Subject: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo>> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <8b6eae960503022048b90c457@mail.gmail.com>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo>> I've built 5.3 Stable as of tonight 03/02/2005 with the following in make.conf

fsrfo>> CPUTYPE=i686
fsrfo>> CFLAGS=-02 -pipe

fsrfo>> It was built on a p4. 

fsrfo>> I went to install this on my trusty firewall machine and I get the following
fsrfo>> error: 
fsrfo>> -----BEGIN ERROR-----
fsrfo>> CD Loader 1.2

fsrfo>> Building the boot loader arguments
fsrfo>> Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found
fsrfo>> Relocating the loader and the BTX
fsrfo>> Starting the BTX loader

fsrfo>> BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01

fsrfo>> int=0000000d  err=000000c0  efl=00010a47  eip=00015528
fsrfo>> eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=ffffffff edx=00094fa0
fsrfo>> esi=01164e7f  edi=c8b66ff7  ebp=00093ff8  esp=7c24ddf4
fsrfo>> cs=002b  ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033
fsrfo>> cs:eip=9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00-9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00
fsrfo>>            9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00-9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00
fsrfo>> ss:esp=ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff-ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
fsrfo>>             ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff-ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
fsrfo>> BTX halted 
fsrfo>> -----END ERROR-----
fsrfo>> Also, the 5.3.isos downloaded from ftp.freebsd.org fail to boot as well.

fsrfo>> It's not hardware related as I'm able to pop in a OpenBSD3.6 snapshot
fsrfo>> and boot from that.

fsrfo>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm going to try the floppies next.

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 26
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:56:57 -0800
fsrfo>> From: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: Crash when PREEMPTION enabled
fsrfo>> To: Peter Jeremy <PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au>
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <20050303045657.GA6139@xor.obsecurity.org>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

fsrfo>> On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 07:13:04PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
>>> I have tried enabling PREEMPTION on 5.3-RELEASE-p5 whilst it ran OK
>>> for a few hours, it crashed overnight whilst doing a "make index" in
>>> /usr/ports.  I've tried repeating "make index" and it worked. I have
>>> a coredump of the crash and have been doing some poking around.

fsrfo>> I've just turned on PREEMPTION on the 12-CPU sparc64 machine running
fsrfo>> RELENG_5 that I've been playing with, and it quickly resets and
fsrfo>> reboots under load (buildworld -j12).  This happens with either ULE or
fsrfo>> 4BSD, although ULE without PREEMPTION seems to work fine (and perform
fsrfo>> much better than 4BSD, as expected).

fsrfo>> It looks like PREEMPTION is indeed still broken in RELENG_5 - I guess
fsrfo>> my workloads aren't enough to trigger this on other machines :-(

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fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 27
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 21:00:22 -0800
fsrfo>> From: "Michael C. Shultz" <reso3w83@verizon.net>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo>> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <200503022100.28784.reso3w83@verizon.net>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

fsrfo>> On Wednesday 02 March 2005 08:48 pm, Edwin Brown wrote:
>>> I've built 5.3 Stable as of tonight 03/02/2005 with the following in
>>> make.conf
>>>
>>> CPUTYPE=i686
>>> CFLAGS=-02 -pipe
>>>
>>> It was built on a p4.

fsrfo>> CFLAGS should be -O2 not -02 and you really may want to concider just -O

fsrfo>> -Mike

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 28
fsrfo>> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 00:09:11 -0500
fsrfo>> From: Edwin Brown <edwin.brown@gmail.com>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo>> To: "Michael C. Shultz" <reso3w83@verizon.net>
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <8b6eae960503022109d8561e2@mail.gmail.com>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo>> I didn't cut and paste that. I had to copy everything by hand. It's
fsrfo>> correct in the make.conf.

fsrfo>> Best, 

fsrfo>> Edwin



fsrfo>> On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 21:00:22 -0800, Michael C. Shultz
fsrfo>> <reso3w83@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 02 March 2005 08:48 pm, Edwin Brown wrote:
>>> > I've built 5.3 Stable as of tonight 03/02/2005 with the following in
>>> > make.conf
>>> >
>>> > CPUTYPE=i686
>>> > CFLAGS=-02 -pipe
>>> >
>>> > It was built on a p4.
>>> 
>>> CFLAGS should be -O2 not -02 and you really may want to concider just -O
>>> 
>>> -Mike
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list
>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable
>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
>>> "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
>>>

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 29
fsrfo>> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:15:28 -0500
fsrfo>> From: Nicholas Basila <mlists@northglobe.com>
fsrfo>> Subject: ndis problem with stable kernel source
fsrfo>> To: stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <42269D70.5090806@northglobe.com>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

fsrfo>> I've been getting an error building 5-stable on an i386 P4 notebook. I'm
fsrfo>> using an ndis_driver_data.h file that I successfully used on 
fsrfo>> 5.3-RELEASE, and even 5-CURRENT before the 5.3 release. I tried
fsrfo>> rebuilding the file with ndiscvt. The file came out the same as my
fsrfo>> original, but I still had the build error. Here's the error (this
fsrfo>> failure is after the make depend... during the make):

fsrfo>> linking kernel
fsrfo>> if_ndis_pccard.o(.text+0xc): In function `ndis_probe_pccard':
fsrfo>> : undefined reference to `drv_data'
fsrfo>> if_ndis_pci.o(.text+0x14): In function `ndis_probe_pci':
fsrfo>> : undefined reference to `drv_data'
fsrfo>> *** Error code 1

fsrfo>> Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/HP09.


fsrfo>> This card worked fine with 5.3-RELEASE. It's a Broadcom 54G wireless NIC
fsrfo>> on an HP zd7140us notebook. Any thoughts?

fsrfo>> Regards,

fsrfo>> Nicholas



fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 30
fsrfo>> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 00:15:03 -0500
fsrfo>> From: Edwin Brown <edwin.brown@gmail.com>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo>> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <8b6eae960503022115363d3fde@mail.gmail.com>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo>> It boots OK from the floppies as a work around... 


fsrfo>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 23:48:19 -0500, Edwin Brown
fsrfo>> <edwin.brown@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I've built 5.3 Stable as of tonight 03/02/2005 with the following in make.conf
>>> 
>>> CPUTYPE=i686
>>> CFLAGS=-02 -pipe
>>> 
>>> It was built on a p4.
>>> 
>>> I went to install this on my trusty firewall machine and I get the following
>>> error:
>>> -----BEGIN ERROR-----
>>> CD Loader 1.2
>>> 
>>> Building the boot loader arguments
>>> Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found
>>> Relocating the loader and the BTX
>>> Starting the BTX loader
>>> 
>>> BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01
>>> 
>>> int=0000000d  err=000000c0  efl=00010a47  eip=00015528
>>> eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=ffffffff edx=00094fa0
>>> esi=01164e7f  edi=c8b66ff7  ebp=00093ff8  esp=7c24ddf4
>>> cs=002b  ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033
>>> cs:eip=9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00-9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00
>>>           9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00-9a c0 00 00 9a c0 00 00
>>> ss:esp=ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff-ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
>>>            ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff-ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
>>> BTX halted
>>> -----END ERROR-----
>>> Also, the 5.3.isos downloaded from ftp.freebsd.org fail to boot as well.
>>> 
>>> It's not hardware related as I'm able to pop in a OpenBSD3.6 snapshot
>>> and boot from that.
>>> 
>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm going to try the floppies next.
>>>

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 31
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 21:25:30 -0800
fsrfo>> From: "Michael C. Shultz" <reso3w83@verizon.net>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: 5.3 STABLE Boot CD Fails on PPRO 200 (BTX halted)
fsrfo>> To: Edwin Brown <edwin.brown@gmail.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <200503022125.31189.reso3w83@verizon.net>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

fsrfo>> On Wednesday 02 March 2005 09:09 pm, Edwin Brown wrote:
>>> I didn't cut and paste that. I had to copy everything by hand. It's
>>> correct in the make.conf.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>

fsrfo>> OK, did you try just using -O?  There is a note about that in the
fsrfo>> make.conf file.

fsrfo>> -Mike

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 32
fsrfo>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:50:41 -0800
fsrfo>> From: pete wright <nomadlogic@gmail.com>
fsrfo>> Subject:        Re: Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for
fsrfo>>         FreebBSD 4.10
fsrfo>> To: Artem Kuchin <matrix@itlegion.ru>
fsrfo>> Cc: FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <57d7100005030221505d8ff1b2@mail.gmail.com>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:27:07 +0300, Artem Kuchin
fsrfo>> <matrix@itlegion.ru> wrote:
>>> Can anybody recommend cheap IDE mirroring PCI (2.0, not 2.1 or 2.2)
>>> controller with just 2 IDE ports which works fine with FreeBSD 4.10 ?
>>> 
>>> It is to be installed on a very old motherboard (1998) and two 40GB IDE
>>> driver (more or less modern ones, at least not used ones for  sure).

fsrfo>> sorry I don't know of any really cheap one's off hand, altho I do have
fsrfo>> experience with 3Ware RAID cards on 4.x.  They seemed to work well,
fsrfo>> and they are less expensive than proper SCSI cards...altho slower.  If
fsrfo>> cost really an issue would it be worth mirroring your disks in
fsrfo>> software via VINUM?

fsrfo>> -p



fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> ~~o0OO0o~~
fsrfo>> Pete Wright
fsrfo>> www.nycbug.org
fsrfo>> NYC's *BSD User Group

fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 33
fsrfo>> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:42:33 +1030
fsrfo>> From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source
fsrfo>> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Cc: stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <200503031642.39981.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

fsrfo>> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:45, Nicholas Basila wrote:
>>> I've been getting an error building 5-stable on an i386 P4 notebook. I'm
>>> using an ndis_driver_data.h file that I successfully used on
>>> 5.3-RELEASE, and even 5-CURRENT before the 5.3 release. I tried
>>> rebuilding the file with ndiscvt. The file came out the same as my
>>> original, but I still had the build error. Here's the error (this
>>> failure is after the make depend... during the make):

fsrfo>> How did you run ndiscvt? Where did you get the driver from?
fsrfo>> etc..

fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
fsrfo>> for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
fsrfo>> "The nice thing about standards is that there
fsrfo>> are so many of them to choose from."
fsrfo>>   -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 34
fsrfo>> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:42:33 +1030
fsrfo>> From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source
fsrfo>> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Cc: stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <200503031642.39981.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
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fsrfo>> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:45, Nicholas Basila wrote:
>>> I've been getting an error building 5-stable on an i386 P4 notebook. I'm
>>> using an ndis_driver_data.h file that I successfully used on
>>> 5.3-RELEASE, and even 5-CURRENT before the 5.3 release. I tried
>>> rebuilding the file with ndiscvt. The file came out the same as my
>>> original, but I still had the build error. Here's the error (this
>>> failure is after the make depend... during the make):

fsrfo>> How did you run ndiscvt? Where did you get the driver from?
fsrfo>> etc..

fsrfo>> -- 
fsrfo>> Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer
fsrfo>> for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au
fsrfo>> "The nice thing about standards is that there
fsrfo>> are so many of them to choose from."
fsrfo>>   -- Andrew Tanenbaum
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fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 35
fsrfo>> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 01:20:58 -0500
fsrfo>> From: Nicholas Basila <mlists@northglobe.com>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source
fsrfo>> To: Daniel O'Connor <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <4226ACCA.1020503@northglobe.com>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

fsrfo>> Daniel O'Connor wrote:

>>>On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:45, Nicholas Basila wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>>I've been getting an error building 5-stable on an i386 P4 notebook. I'm
>>>>using an ndis_driver_data.h file that I successfully used on
>>>>5.3-RELEASE, and even 5-CURRENT before the 5.3 release. I tried
>>>>rebuilding the file with ndiscvt. The file came out the same as my
>>>>original, but I still had the build error. Here's the error (this
>>>>failure is after the make depend... during the make):
>>>>    
>>>>
>>>
>>>How did you run ndiscvt? Where did you get the driver from?
>>>etc..
>>>
>>>  
>>>
fsrfo>> Well, I've been using the official HP driver. I ran the utility like so:
fsrfo>> ndiscvt -i name_of_nt_driver.inf -s name_of_nt_driver.sys -o 
fsrfo>> /tmp/ndis_driver_data.h

fsrfo>> I then copied it to the compile directory of my kernel. Make depend runs
fsrfo>> correctly, but it crashes out during the linking phase of make. I have
fsrfo>> these options at the bottom of my kernel config:

fsrfo>> options NDISAPI
fsrfo>> device ndis
fsrfo>> device wlan

fsrfo>> As I said, this worked perfectly with 5.3 and even 5-current before the
fsrfo>> 5.3 release. I tried building the stable version of ndiscvt, and that
fsrfo>> didn't produce a different header file. I did a cvsup two days ago, got
fsrfo>> the error, and did a new cvsup tonight.




fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 36
fsrfo>> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 07:30:44 +0100 (CET)
fsrfo>> From: pcasidy@casidy.com
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source
fsrfo>> To: mlists@northglobe.com
fsrfo>> Cc: stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <20050303062137.3DFFFB86C@smtp.casidy.net>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii

fsrfo>> On  3 Mar, Nicholas Basila wrote:
>>> I've been getting an error building 5-stable on an i386 P4 notebook. I'm
>>> using an ndis_driver_data.h file that I successfully used on 
>>> 5.3-RELEASE, and even 5-CURRENT before the 5.3 release. I tried 
>>> rebuilding the file with ndiscvt. The file came out the same as my
>>> original, but I still had the build error. Here's the error (this 
>>> failure is after the make depend... during the make):
>>> 
>>> linking kernel
>>> if_ndis_pccard.o(.text+0xc): In function `ndis_probe_pccard':
>>> : undefined reference to `drv_data'
>>> if_ndis_pci.o(.text+0x14): In function `ndis_probe_pci':
>>> : undefined reference to `drv_data'
>>> *** Error code 1
>>> 
>>> Stop in /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/HP09.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This card worked fine with 5.3-RELEASE. It's a Broadcom 54G wireless NIC
>>> on an HP zd7140us notebook. Any thoughts?

fsrfo>> I had exactly this problem when my ndis_driver_data.h was built with a
fsrfo>> previous version of ndiscvt. You may have to update your world too.

fsrfo>> Hope that helps!

fsrfo>> Phil.


fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 37
fsrfo>> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 07:32:36 +0100
fsrfo>> From: Emanuel Strobl <emanuel.strobl@gmx.net>
fsrfo>> Subject: -PRErelease and ACPI: no PRT entry for 0.1.INTA
fsrfo>> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <200503030732.41525@harrymail>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

fsrfo>> Dear Hackers,

fsrfo>> on one remote machine I see the following error
fsrfo>> (RELENG_5 from this night):

fsrfo>> pcib0: no PRT entry for 0.1.INTA

fsrfo>> I have only ssh access and putting "-v" in
fsrfo>> /boot.config didn't help me getting
fsrfo>> a verbose dmesg.
fsrfo>> Anyway, I think it's caused by a bogus BIOS but I wanted to make sure having
fsrfo>> it reported.
fsrfo>> Last version was RELENG_5 from Nov. 5th and I also had a ACPI error but more
fsrfo>> detailed. Unfortunately I lost the output....

fsrfo>> Thanks,

fsrfo>> -Harry
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fsrfo>> ------------------------------

fsrfo>> Message: 38
fsrfo>> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 17:27:46 +1030
fsrfo>> From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo>> Subject: Re: ndis problem with stable kernel source
fsrfo>> To: Nicholas Basila <mlists@northglobe.com>
fsrfo>> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo>> Message-ID: <200503031727.52538.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
fsrfo>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

fsrfo>> On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 16:50, Nicholas Basila wrote:
>>> Well, I've been using the official HP driver. I ran the utility like so:

fsrfo>> I don't know where the official HP driver is (hint: a URL would be handy)

>>> ndiscvt -i name_of_nt_driver.inf -s name_of_nt_driver.sys -o
>>> /tmp/ndis_driver_data.h
>>>
>>> I then copied it to the compile directory of my kernel. Make depend runs
>>> correctly, but it crashes out during the linking phase of make. I have
>>> these options at the bottom of my kernel config:
>>>
>>> options NDISAPI
>>> device ndis
>>> device wlan

fsrfo>> I would suggest building it as a module as it's much simpler (unless you're
fsrfo>> booting over this interface - which is doubtful)

fsrfo>> eg..
fsrfo>> cd /usr/src/sys/modules/if_ndis
fsrfo>> cp /tmp/foo.inf /tmp/foo.sys .
fsrfo>> ndiscvt -i foo.inf -s foo.sys -o ndis_driver_data.h
fsrfo>> make
fsrfo>> make install

>>> As I said, this worked perfectly with 5.3 and even 5-current before the
>>> 5.3 release. I tried building the stable version of ndiscvt, and that
>>> didn't produce a different header file. I did a cvsup two days ago, got
>>> the error, and did a new cvsup tonight.

fsrfo>> Make sure your userland and kernel are in sync - ie install world to match
fsrfo>> your new kernel. You may be building against stale headers.




fsrfo> В данном сообщении отсутствует тема письма.
fsrfo> Информирую Вас, что подобные сообщения если и будут рассматриваться,
fsrfo> то в последнюю очередь.

fsrfo> Прошу Вас впредь, для ускорения обработки Ваших сообщений указывать их
fsrfo> тему.

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fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 2
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:13:18 +0300
fsrfo> From: "Artem Kuchin" <matrix@itlegion.ru>
fsrfo> Subject:        Re: Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for
fsrfo>         FreebBSD 4.10
fsrfo> To: "pete wright" <nomadlogic@gmail.com>
fsrfo> Cc: FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
fsrfo> Message-ID: <00b101c51fd1$3fd448f0$0c00a8c0@artem>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain;       format=flowed;  charset="iso-8859-1";
fsrfo>         reply-type=original

fsrfo> pete wright <nomadlogic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:27:07 +0300, Artem Kuchin <matrix@itlegion.ru>
>> wrote: 
>>> Can anybody recommend cheap IDE mirroring PCI (2.0, not 2.1 or 2.2)
>>> controller with just 2 IDE ports which works fine with FreeBSD 4.10 ?
>>> 
>>> It is to be installed on a very old motherboard (1998) and two 40GB
>>> IDE driver (more or less modern ones, at least not used ones for 
>>> sure). 
>> 
>> sorry I don't know of any really cheap one's off hand, altho I do have
>> experience with 3Ware RAID cards on 4.x.  They seemed to work well,
>> and they are less expensive than proper SCSI cards...altho slower.  If
>> cost really an issue would it be worth mirroring your disks in
>> software via VINUM?

fsrfo> Well, i don't trust software raids. But 3ware is probably one of the most
fsrfo> expensive raid 0,1 controllers. There must be something around 40$ which
fsrfo> freebsd supports. Does anyone known any model?

fsrfo> --
fsrfo> Regards,
fsrfo> Artem Kuchin
fsrfo> IT Legion Ltd.
fsrfo> Moscow, Russia
fsrfo> www.itlegion.ru
fsrfo> matrix@itlegion.ru
fsrfo> +7 095 232-0338


fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 3
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 09:10:00 +0000
fsrfo> From: Gerald de la Pascua <geralddelapascua@gmail.com>
fsrfo> Subject:        Re: Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for
fsrfo>         FreebBSD 4.10
fsrfo> To: pete wright <nomadlogic@gmail.com>
fsrfo> Cc: Artem Kuchin <matrix@itlegion.ru>
fsrfo> Message-ID: <1bcf5ef9050303011052f49965@mail.gmail.com>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo> we have had very good experiences with the basic 3ware cards, 
fsrfo> I would recommend them,  easy to install,  reliable, and good perfomance,
fsrfo> in the uk they cost just over 100 pounds,  so a similar price to two
fsrfo> disks to plug into them.   When a disk fails  you would willingly pay
fsrfo> many times this amount,

fsrfo> kind regards,  Gerald




fsrfo> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:50:41 -0800, pete wright
fsrfo> <nomadlogic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:27:07 +0300, Artem Kuchin <matrix@itlegion.ru> wrote:
>> > Can anybody recommend cheap IDE mirroring PCI (2.0, not 2.1 or 2.2)
>> > controller with just 2 IDE ports which works fine with FreeBSD 4.10 ?
>> >
>> > It is to be installed on a very old motherboard (1998) and two 40GB IDE
>> > driver (more or less modern ones, at least not used ones for  sure).
>> 
>> sorry I don't know of any really cheap one's off hand, altho I do have
>> experience with 3Ware RAID cards on 4.x.  They seemed to work well,
>> and they are less expensive than proper SCSI cards...altho slower.  If
>> cost really an issue would it be worth mirroring your disks in
>> software via VINUM?
>> 
>> -p
>> 
>> --
>> ~~o0OO0o~~
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fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 4
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:23:56 +0300
fsrfo> From: "Artem Kuchin" <matrix@itlegion.ru>
fsrfo> Subject:        Re: Need really cheap IDE mirroring PCI controlled for
fsrfo>         FreebBSD 4.10
fsrfo> To: <gerald@homes-on-line.com>, "pete wright" <nomadlogic@gmail.com>
fsrfo> Cc: FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
fsrfo> Message-ID: <00d401c51fd2$bd034af0$0c00a8c0@artem>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain;       format=flowed;  charset="iso-8859-1";
fsrfo>         reply-type=original

fsrfo> Gerald de la Pascua <geralddelapascua@gmail.com> wrote:
>> we have had very good experiences with the basic 3ware cards,
>> I would recommend them,  easy to install,  reliable, and good
>> perfomance, in the uk they cost just over 100 pounds,  so a similar
>> price to two 
>> disks to plug into them.   When a disk fails  you would willingly pay
>> many times this amount,

fsrfo> 3ware controllers are one of the most expensive ones. I am sure there
fsrfo> are good controllers which cost a lot less and work with freebsd. Do
fsrfo> you know any?

fsrfo> Artem

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 5
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 18:18:23 +0900 (JST)
fsrfo> From: Yoshiaki Kasahara <kasahara@nc.kyushu-u.ac.jp>
fsrfo> Subject: 1000baseTX?
fsrfo> To: stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID:
fsrfo> <20050303.181823.216808984.kasahara@nc.kyushu-u.ac.jp>
fsrfo> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii

fsrfo> Hello,

fsrfo> In man pages, dmesg and ifconfig of FreeBSD5, GbE operation over
fsrfo> twisted pair is mostly referred as '1000baseTX'.  I guess most of them
fsrfo> should be replaced by '1000baseT'.  1000base"TX" and 1000base"T" are
fsrfo> different standard and they are not compatible ("TX" needs CAT6 cable
fsrfo> and uses pairs in different way).  Also 1000baseTX support is very
fsrfo> rare yet.  I'm sorry I'm not sure if some devices really support "TX".

fsrfo> For example, I have a NIC based on Realtek RTL8169S and its manual
fsrfo> says "It supports 1000BASE-T/100BASE-TX/10BASE-T".

fsrfo> In dmesg:
fsrfo> rgephy0: <RTL8169S/8110S media interface> on miibus1
fsrfo> rgephy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX,
fsrfo> 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto

fsrfo> Regards,
fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo> Yoshiaki Kasahara
fsrfo> kasahara@nc.kyushu-u.ac.jp

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 6
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:04:30 +0000
fsrfo> From: Jake Stride <nsuk@users.sourceforge.net>
fsrfo> Subject: Linking with CUPS Issue
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <4226E12E.7000209@users.sourceforge.net>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

fsrfo> I have had a look on google and the archives and although I have seen
fsrfo> people with a similar issue I have not been able to find an answer to
fsrfo> the issue I have.

fsrfo> I am trying to compile the magicolor 2430DL printer dirvers and keep
fsrfo> running into the following error:

fsrfo> root@lancelot# make
fsrfo> Linking rastertokmlf...
fsrfo> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lcups
fsrfo> *** Error code 1

fsrfo> Stop in /root/magicolor2430DL-1.1.0.

fsrfo> Now I have the following cups packages installed (I am using 5.3), what
fsrfo> am I doing wrong?

fsrfo> Thanks

fsrfo> Jake

fsrfo> root@lancelot# pkg_info | grep cups
fsrfo> cups-1.1.23.0       The Common UNIX Printing System: Metaport to install
fsrfo> comple
fsrfo> cups-base-1.1.23.0_3 The Common UNIX Printing System: headers, libs, &
fsrfo> daemons
fsrfo> cups-lpr-1.1.23.0   The CUPS BSD and system V compatibility binaries
fsrfo> (lp* comma
fsrfo> cups-pstoraster-7.07_3 GNU Postscript interpreter for CUPS printing to
fsrfo> non-PS prin
fsrfo> gnome-cups-manager-0.28,1 Admistration tool for cups
fsrfo> libgnomecups-0.1.14,1 Support library for gnome cups admistration

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 7
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 11:09:55 +0100
fsrfo> From: Jared Earle <jearle@gmail.com>
fsrfo> Subject: Re: Dual booting with Windows XP
fsrfo> To: FreeBSD Mailing List <stable@freebsd.org>
fsrfo> Message-ID: <5bbc0cd6050303020977bbf94e@mail.gmail.com>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

fsrfo> On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 21:40:28 -0700, Didier Caamano
fsrfo> <nemesisdivina@gennux.ca> wrote:
>> Hello everyone:
>> 
>> This might sound rather foolish, but I need some assistance on how to
>> dual boot FBSD 5.3 with WinXP.
>> 
>> I have to Hard Drives, Windows is in the first drive, and I want to
>> install FBSD on the second. No in the installation process I choose to
>> create the partitions to the second Hard Drive, then it ask me if I want
>> to install the boot manager, to which I answer yes, then it ask me where
>> to install it, and I choose to the First Hard drive, is that ok? well,
>> what happens is that after I choose the installer send me to disklabel
>> to slice the Hard drive, but it show the First hard drive.
>> 
>> am I making any sense at all? I thought that installing the boot manager
>> was going to be a straigh forward process, is there anything wrong with
>> what I am experiencing? Any help will be appreciated.

fsrfo> If you want Windows on the first drive, then I recommend letting the
fsrfo> Windows boot manager handle it.

fsrfo> The handbook page on it is here, but it seems to be missing the fact
fsrfo> that you can find the boot file (/boot/boot1) on the install CD.
fsrfo> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER

fsrfo> Here's my tiny howto for fedora with a freebsd addendum:

fsrfo> http://www.ramblingwaffles.net/DualBoot

fsrfo> -- 
fsrfo>    Jared Earle :: http://www.23x.net  
fsrfo>  jearle@gmail.com :: There is no SPORK

fsrfo> ------------------------------

fsrfo> Message: 8
fsrfo> Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 04:18:13 -0600
fsrfo> From: Tim Daneliuk <tundra@tundraware.com>
fsrfo> Subject: Need Help With mount_smbfs Error Message
fsrfo> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
fsrfo> Message-ID: <4226E465.5050709@tundraware.com>
fsrfo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

fsrfo> I am running 4.11-stable (sources up-to-date as of today).  I have
fsrfo> a smb file system mounted on this machine (it is a samba share on another
fsrfo> 4.11-stable box).  I am seeing this message intermittently:

fsrfo>     smb_maperror:Unmapped error 1:158

fsrfo> What might be causing this?

fsrfo> TIA,



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