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Date:      Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:14:18 -0500
From:      Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
Cc:        Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@aciri.org>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: TCP Performance Graphs
Message-ID:  <20011130171418.B96592@ussenterprise.ufp.org>
In-Reply-To: <20011130135042.G46769@elvis.mu.org>; from bright@mu.org on Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 01:50:42PM -0600
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First off, apologies to Luigi, I was shooting off my mouth.

Second off:

On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 01:50:42PM -0600, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> I was about to set the default in -stable to Leo's suggested values,
> it seems that -current already has the delta he wants in it,
> my question is, was anything else changed along the lines of the
> number of nmbclusters allocated in -current to go along with
> this change?

On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 01:54:02PM -0600, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> It seems not, I've committed the change.

When I proposed this before there was a bit of a debate about
needing to increase clusters and MBUF's.  To summarize, I think
we took the following away from it:

* For most users it makes no difference, as they are far from the
  limits.

* This will make a small number of people who aren't hitting
  limits now hit an MBUF limit.

  - These people probably need increases anyway, as they are
    too close to the limit now.

  - Hitting the MBUF limit is fairly, well, harsh, and we might
    want to add syslog or other logged warnings at like 90%
    utilization or something.

At a minimum I think:

* There needs to be a note in the errata for the release this
  goes in mentioning more MBUF's might be needed.

* LINT should be updated with a comment and a value 2 to 4 times
  GENERIC's default as the default listed value.

* The logging at 90% usage should be investigated.  I can probably
  generate patches for that over the weekend, provided I can find
  a good way to rate limit them.

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