Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 10:12:25 -0700 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>, Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@freebsd.org> Cc: Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Any Cronyx Tau* (ce(4) or cp(4)) users ? Message-ID: <CANCZdfrSKKEhZ9uQiB5S4_HnOXjayCK96VY8aePNooPOHmakVA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20211215175202.e1d101079a9c22c9094577f3@bidouilliste.com> References: <20211215162538.99d8d81650af56e2276f2f88@bidouilliste.com> <CAPyFy2D7mtKpv9uO8NOEx9iAoyg71vzLaxMVnzKZ5gDejhx19w@mail.gmail.com> <20211215175202.e1d101079a9c22c9094577f3@bidouilliste.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 9:52 AM Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> wrote: > On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 10:42:36 -0500 > Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 at 10:27, Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > I've noticed this /sbin/sconfig binary and after looking it's for > > > configuring Cronyx E1 PCI (PCI as in PCI, not PCIe). > > > The products pages ([1], [2]) seems to say that FreeBSD >=7 isn't > > > supported. > > > We currently only build the drivers for i386 (and they contain native > > > compiled code). > > > > > > Anyway, I'd like to remove this from the tree, I really doubt that > > > anyone uses this cards nowadays (or even E1) but just in case I send > > > this mail. > > > > I posted a similar query to -stable in 2020, at > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2020-February/092037.html > > and did not get any response. > > > > I have D23928 for a deprecation notice for ce and cp. Gleb commented > > there that he'd offer to maintain them (and as part of that, removed > > sppp in 6aae3517ed25). > > > > I'm not sure I understand the logic here. > We're keeping drivers for museum grade hardware that no developer have > access to and likely no one uses nowadays just for an hypothetical > situation where someone will try to use those cards on FreeBSD 14 i386 > in 2021 ? > And we're doing that just because the drivers compiles ? > I've cc'd Gleb to see if he can shine some light on this. Warner [-- Attachment #2 --] <div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 9:52 AM Emmanuel Vadot <<a href="mailto:manu@bidouilliste.com">manu@bidouilliste.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 10:42:36 -0500<br> Ed Maste <<a href="mailto:emaste@freebsd.org" target="_blank">emaste@freebsd.org</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 at 10:27, Emmanuel Vadot <<a href="mailto:manu@bidouilliste.com" target="_blank">manu@bidouilliste.com</a>> wrote:<br> > ><br> > ><br> > > Hello all,<br> > ><br> > > I've noticed this /sbin/sconfig binary and after looking it's for<br> > > configuring Cronyx E1 PCI (PCI as in PCI, not PCIe).<br> > > The products pages ([1], [2]) seems to say that FreeBSD >=7 isn't<br> > > supported.<br> > > We currently only build the drivers for i386 (and they contain native<br> > > compiled code).<br> > ><br> > > Anyway, I'd like to remove this from the tree, I really doubt that<br> > > anyone uses this cards nowadays (or even E1) but just in case I send<br> > > this mail.<br> > <br> > I posted a similar query to -stable in 2020, at<br> > <a href="https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2020-February/092037.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2020-February/092037.html</a><br>; > and did not get any response.<br> > <br> > I have D23928 for a deprecation notice for ce and cp. Gleb commented<br> > there that he'd offer to maintain them (and as part of that, removed<br> > sppp in 6aae3517ed25).<br> > <br> <br> I'm not sure I understand the logic here.<br> We're keeping drivers for museum grade hardware that no developer have<br> access to and likely no one uses nowadays just for an hypothetical<br> situation where someone will try to use those cards on FreeBSD 14 i386<br> in 2021 ?<br> And we're doing that just because the drivers compiles ?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I've cc'd Gleb to see if he can shine some light on this.</div><div><br></div><div>Warner </div></div></div>help
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