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Date:      Thu, 26 May 2016 16:49:44 +0200
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>
To:        Eric van Gyzen <vangyzen@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Hajimu UMEMOTO <ume@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Date formatting with en_US locale
Message-ID:  <20160526144944.GD977@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net>
In-Reply-To: <499d8ddd-06c8-5184-68cb-4be19764b318@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <499d8ddd-06c8-5184-68cb-4be19764b318@FreeBSD.org>

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On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 09:44:25AM -0500, Eric van Gyzen wrote:
> Baptiste and -current,
> 
> I noticed two annoyances with date formatting on head, and I wonder how
> we can fix them.
> 
> I have these settings:
> 
>     LC_ALL=en_US.ISO8859-1
>     LANG=en_US.ISO8859-1
> 
> First, Thunderbird displays the date as, for example:
> 
>     03/ 6/16 ...
> 
> The leading space on the day (6) looks weird.  I might even say it's
> simply wrong.  Zero-padding would better.  (/No/ padding would be best,
> but I don't think strftime supports that.)
> 
> Second, date(1) no longer shows the day-of-week:
> 
>     $ date
>     March 26, 2016 at 09:21:55 AM CDT
> 
> For many years, I have been typing "date" to see the day-of-week (and
> other things).  I like the new human-friendly format, but I miss the
> day-of-week.
> 
> Of course, I can fix these locally, but I wonder how we can fix them for
> everyone.  I see that the formats come from CLDR.  I also see that ume@
> restored the day-of-week for ja_JP in r292512.  Is this the best
> approach, or should we try to get them changed upstream (CLDR)?
> 
> Thanks for your input,

I can hack cldr2def.pl to readd the week of day as it was before for 11.0 still
the best approach is to push the change upstream.

I will have a look at the cldr2def.pl hack this week end.

Best regards,
Bapt

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