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Date:      Sat, 17 Jun 2000 00:47:47 +0200 (CEST)
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= <groudier@club-internet.fr>
To:        wc.bulte@chello.nl
Cc:        Alec Wolman <wolman@cs.washington.edu>, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: does the sym driver work with the xp1000 pci scsi controller?
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.10.10006170021340.2159-100000@linux.local>
In-Reply-To: <20000616234916.A13766@freebie.wbnet>

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On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 02:31:37PM -0700, Alec Wolman wrote:
> > 
> > > 4.0R HARDWARE.TXT? The only thing that I wrote in there that faintly appears
> > > relevant is:
> > > 
> > > "Expansion:
> > > Don't try to use NCR/Symbios-chip based SCSI adapters in the PCI slots
> > > connected to hose 1. There is a not-yet-found FreeBSD bug that prevents this
> > > from working correctly. Not all VGA cards will work behind the PCI-PCI
> > > bridge (so in slots 4 & 5). Only cards that implement VGA-legacy adressing
> > > correctly will work. Workaround is to put the VGA card 'before' the bridge."

Putting a VGA card behind a PCI-to-PCI bridge is probably not that clever,
but it does not seem that 2127X (X=2?) core logics used with 21264's
utilize a PCI-to-PCI bridge for PCI BUS #1 (I mean both PCI BUS
controllers seem to be attached to the system BUS). Note that I have been
unable to find any detailed documentation about core logics used for the
21264, so I may be just wrong on that point. :(

> > > Where does it say the 83C895 does not work? It says that there are problems
> > > with NCR/Symbios based cards *ON HOSE 1*. Not that they don't work at all.
> > 
> > My XP1000 came with all its disks attached to the Symbios PCI card, not
> > the Qlogic motherboard controller.  I'm sorry, but it was the "connected
> > to hose 1" phrase that I mis-interpreted.  I have no idea what a hose is,
> > so I figured that must be the PCI slot it comes in.
> 
> OK, I understand that. A hose != PCI slot. A hose is DEC/CPQ speak for an
> high speed I/O channel to (e.g) a PCI bus controller. The PCI bus controller
> drives a number of PCI slots.

Thanks for the enlightment about meaning of `hose' in this context. :-)

> I will write a clarification around this in HARDWARE.TXT 

Regards,
  Gérard.



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