Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:21:47 -0700 From: Alex Bedworth <abed@uswest.net> To: "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com> Cc: Wilko Bulte <wilko@yedi.iaf.nl>, Mark Newton <newton@internode.com.au>, Peter Jeremy <peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au>, Donn Miller <dmmiller@cvzoom.net>, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle? Message-ID: <385868DB.84722BB2@uswest.net> References: <2177.945155945@zippy.cdrom.com> <3855F364.E66EC87B@cvzoom.net> <99Dec15.073843est.40325@border.alcanet.com.au> <19991215083352.B3500@internode.com.au> <19991215000600.C77327@yedi.iaf.nl> <3857D101.2AF01952@newsguy.com>
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Daniel brings up a good point about SMIT (I don't know about SAM,
not being a HP geek :)
One helpful feature of SMIT/smitty is that it allows you to display
the command that you are about to run. It also saves a history of
its session in $HOME/smit.log, which can be used later to repeat
actions taken, just a little better than script(1) ;-)
For administration, this capability is VERY nice. I don't administer
systems, but, occasionally, I have to install packages on a number of
systems. Being able to see what 'goes on under the covers' is very
helpful - especially if you're doing it for the first time, or are a
'casual' user, sometimes administrator.
Having used LINUX since around '92, I am in love with FreeBSD's use
of /usr/ports/*. Simply being able to type 'make install' in a port
directory, and having everything magically installed is wonderful.
If the point of this thread is for the basic 'sysinstall', leave the
thing as it is. It works great. If [collective] we want to create
an administrative tool, then I, as a user, would want for whatever
tool that is to provide me with the information I need to create an
action via script, or whatever. Let me see what command is being
run, or at least give me the ability to view it. I also want to be
able to copy/paste the command in its entirety to a script for use
later.
Just .02 from a user. Keep up the good work!
"Daniel C. Sobral" wrote:
>
> Wilko Bulte wrote:
> >
> > This does, however, have all the risks of building yet another SMIT or
> > SAM. :-( Neither attempt at making Unix sysadm 'user-friendly' makes
> > me want to cheer.
>
> Actually, I very much like both SMIT (in it's 4.x incarnation) and SAM.
> Sure, I'll complain loudly if that was the _only_ way of doing it, but
> neither of these tools precludes you from cli and file-editing, nor
> would we have to.
>
> --
> Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS)
> who is as social as a wampas
>
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