Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 22:10:14 -0400 From: Dan Mahoney <freebsd@gushi.org> To: The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quick question about ports and mailing lists Message-ID: <C1285A01-01E7-44CD-8036-0D00680D9BA2@gushi.org> In-Reply-To: <YvWzKlc9Le4yPaM%2B@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> References: <b218cb9d-85a-b57e-9e4-e053b9c3f1d@prime.gushi.org> <YvWzKlc9Le4yPaM%2B@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>
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--Apple-Mail=_4D55EFB0-7B19-4823-85AE-0122DEC037F6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Aug 11, 2022, at 21:55, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> = wrote: >=20 > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 06:49:17PM -0700, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) wrote: >> Hey all, >>=20 >> I had an apache question. (For those who care, I want to see if it's >> possible to get suexec support in the FreeBSD apache24 port, while = leaving >> the mod_suexec module and the SUID suexec binary separate, = installable=20 >> items. >>=20 >> I looked at the maintainer on freshports, it's apache@freebsd.org, so = I >> directed my question there. >>=20 >> ..and got a reject from the mailing list... >>=20 >> I had no way of knowing it's a subscriber-only list, nor did the = reject >> message tell me how to JOIN that list. I suppose figuring that out = is my >> next step, but in the mean time, the meta question: >>=20 >> Should users be expected to know which maintainers are lists which = must be >> joined before asking questions, and which maintainers are simply open = to >> questions? Should there be some separate maintainer flag that = specifies >> this? >>=20 >=20 > Suexec should work just like any other apache platform. Sorry, let me be clear. (My original thread had been the meta of "how = can one be expected to ask questions of maintainers when...") =20 What I'd like from apache24 I'd like to get it so that I can 'pkg = install' a version of apache24, and I'd like there to be a pkg of = mod_suexec like there are many other modules. Right now, enabling suexec is a compile-time thing, you can't just apxs = install mod_suexec the way you'd do most other modules. What I'd like to see is those options set by default, since they're = otherwise harmless if you don't have the suexec module *and* some suexec = config (in apache 1.3 land, there was no config, having the suexec = binary present enabled the feature -- in apache 2.x, any config that = affects this module has its own language). I'm trying not to have to install most of my stuff from pkg, but have to = use port (and track the quarterly ports tree, which portsnap can't do) = just to maintain apache. -Dan >=20 >> -Dan >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >>=20 >> --------Dan Mahoney-------- >> Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek >> Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC >> FB: fb.com/DanielMahoneyIV >> LI: linkedin.com/in/gushi >> Site: http://www.gushi.org >> --------------------------- >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > --=20 > Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca = <mailto:doctor@nk.ca> Ici doctor@nk.ca <mailto:doctor@nk.ca> > Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware = AntiChrist rising! > Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism = https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=3D94a1f39b = <https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=3D94a1f39b>; =20 > Evil ascribes to others what it is guilty of. -unknown Beware = https://mindspring.com <https://mindspring.com/>; --Apple-Mail=_4D55EFB0-7B19-4823-85AE-0122DEC037F6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><br = class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">On Aug 11, 2022, at 21:55, The Doctor <<a = href=3D"mailto:doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca" = class=3D"">doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta = charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" = class=3D"">On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 06:49:17PM -0700, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) = wrote:</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">Hey = all,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I had an apache question. (For = those who care, I want to see if it's<br class=3D"">possible to get = suexec support in the FreeBSD apache24 port, while leaving<br = class=3D"">the mod_suexec module and the SUID suexec binary separate, = installable<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br = class=3D"">items.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I looked at the = maintainer on freshports, it's <a href=3D"mailto:apache@freebsd.org" = class=3D"">apache@freebsd.org</a>, so I<br class=3D"">directed my = question there.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">..and got a reject from the = mailing list...<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I had no way of knowing = it's a subscriber-only list, nor did the reject<br class=3D"">message = tell me how to JOIN that list. I suppose figuring that out is = my<br class=3D"">next step, but in the mean time, the meta question:<br = class=3D""><br class=3D"">Should users be expected to know which = maintainers are lists which must be<br class=3D"">joined before asking = questions, and which maintainers are simply open to<br = class=3D"">questions? Should there be some separate maintainer = flag that specifies<br class=3D"">this?<br class=3D""><br = class=3D""></blockquote><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" = class=3D"">Suexec should work just like any other apache = platform.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;" class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Sorry,= let me be clear. (My original thread had been the meta of "how can one = be expected to ask questions of maintainers when...") = </div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>What I'd like from apache24 = I'd like to get it so that I can 'pkg install' a version of apache24, = and I'd like there to be a pkg of mod_suexec like there are many other = modules.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Right now, enabling suexec = is a compile-time thing, you can't just apxs install mod_suexec the way = you'd do most other modules.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>What = I'd like to see is those options set by default, since they're otherwise = harmless if you don't have the suexec module *and* some suexec config = (in apache 1.3 land, there was no config, having the suexec binary = present enabled the feature -- in apache 2.x, any config that affects = this module has its own language).</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>I'm= trying not to have to install most of my stuff from pkg, but have to = use port (and track the quarterly ports tree, which portsnap can't do) = just to maintain apache.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>-Dan</div><br= class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">-Dan<br= class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">--<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D""><br = class=3D"">--------Dan Mahoney--------<br class=3D"">Techie, = Sysadmin, WebGeek<br class=3D"">Gushi on efnet/undernet = IRC<br class=3D"">FB: <a href=3D"http://fb.com/DanielMahoneyIV" = class=3D"">fb.com/DanielMahoneyIV</a><br class=3D"">LI: <a = href=3D"http://linkedin.com/in/gushi" = class=3D"">linkedin.com/in/gushi</a><br class=3D"">Site: <a = href=3D"http://www.gushi.org" class=3D"">http://www.gushi.org</a><br = class=3D"">---------------------------<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br = class=3D""></blockquote><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" = class=3D"">--<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br= style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Member - Liberal International = This is<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a = href=3D"mailto:doctor@nk.ca" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: = 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">doctor@nk.ca</a><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D""><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ici<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a = href=3D"mailto:doctor@nk.ca" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: = 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">doctor@nk.ca</a><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Yahweh, Queen & = country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist = rising!</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Look at = Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a = href=3D"https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=3D94a1f39b" style=3D"font-family:= Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = class=3D"">https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=3D94a1f39b</a><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D""><span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span> </span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Evil ascribes to others what it = is guilty of. -unknown Beware<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a = href=3D"https://mindspring.com/" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" = class=3D"">https://mindspring.com</a></div></blockquote></div><br = class=3D""></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_4D55EFB0-7B19-4823-85AE-0122DEC037F6--
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