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Date:      Tue, 06 Apr 1999 09:14:50 +0800
From:      Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth <shocking@prth.pgs.com>
To:        wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu (Bill Paul)
Cc:        shocking@bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: More on rl0 woes 
Message-ID:  <199904060114.JAA27863@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 04 Apr 1999 16:02:29 -0400." <199904042002.QAA14549@sirius.ctr.columbia.edu> 

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> 
> I can't believe I'm getting so worked up because you cheap bastards
> insist on buying the absolute worst network adapter in the world. Go
> buy an ASIX card for crying out loud. They're cheap, and they actually
> work worth a damn.

Weeelll... I'm a cheap bastard & I actually expected it to work - not real 
fast, but work reliably anyway. I'm trying to convert my home network over to 
100Mbs and the box this is going into is not a performance monster.

> Now, as punishment for making me mad, I'm going to address Steven's
> problem, and the rest of you can just lump it.
> 
> There are things you should be checking when your problem happens.
> What does ifconfig rl0 show you? Is the OACTIVE flag set? What does
> netstat -in say? What does netstat -m say?

I'll check that tonight.

> You say 'traffic continues
> normally.' This is very confusing: SHOW ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU MEAN.

OK - the "ls" of the directory remains hung, but I can still ping the box. 
It's as if NFS reckons it's sent the reply to the READDIR packet, but it never 
actually made its way out of the card.

> When the NFS transfer stops, can you still ping the server host,
> or do you have to interrupt the transfer and wait for a while
> before you can communicate with the server again? Can you run tcpdump
> on the client and observe what happens when the transfer stops? Is
> the client still sending out read requests? Is the server replying
> or not?

I ran tcpdump on the server and observed READDIR packets being received, but 
no response being emitted.

> Are the replies garbled? Is there a lot of other activity on
> the network at the time? Can you initiate another (smaller) NFS
> transfer when the first one wedges?

I'll try this when I get home. Don't know enough about the contents of NFS 
packets yet to tell if it's garbled.
> 
> You have to give me as much information as you can. I need to be
> able to clearly identify the symptoms of the problem with out all
> the 'oh my god it doesn't work and I tried this and this and this'
> crap.

Orright.. Just give me a little time.


	Stephen
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