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Date:      Mon, 2 Jan 2017 11:27:02 +0800
From:      blubee blubeeme <gurenchan@gmail.com>
To:        Matthew Macy <mmacy@nextbsd.org>
Cc:        abi <abi@abinet.ru>, x11-list freebsd <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: End of year Xorg status rant
Message-ID:  <CALM2mE=kNek_XFpkUt54mwctuxZH8OMwT38szcQ4HFhJ_k_1YQ@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <1595bdc0a96.b508ef2f74041.1895406691949887756@nextbsd.org>
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Matthew it doesn't matter how big the obstacles are, you either find away
past the obstacle or die trying.

Consider this thing a go, I'll be around.

Best,
Owen

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 5:07 AM, Matthew Macy <mmacy@nextbsd.org> wrote:

>  ---- On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 13:05:58 -0800 abi <abi@abinet.ru> wrote ----
>  >
>  > On 01.01.2017 23:52, Matthew Macy wrote:
>  > > Evangelists != money. If some data center operator tomorrow said that
> they'd buy 2000 pascal cards, but they had to be supported by FreeBSD,
> Nvidia would support would appear shortly thereafter. Unfortunately, that
> is not likely to happen.
>  > >
>  > It would be better if Nvidia drops support of FreeBSD. I remember we had
>  > nouveau in 7.x (2010 ?) but nvidia driver killed it. And it continue to
>  > haunt graphics subsystem, killing the enthusiasm to port amd or intel
>  > drivers. BSDs without access to nvidia blob are ahead of us even if they
>  > have much less manpower.
>
> Although it is nice to have a professionally supported driver, I
> frequently refer to the nvidia driver as a "trojan horse" because of the
> ensuing neglect of everything else.
>
> -M
>
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