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Date:      Tue, 1 May 2007 04:31:55 -0700
From:      Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org>
To:        Andrey Chernov <ache@freebsd.org>, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, Roman Kurakin <rik@inse.ru>, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/sysinstall main.c
Message-ID:  <20070501113155.GD13868@elvis.mu.org>
In-Reply-To: <20070501084514.GA4889@nagual.pp.ru>
References:  <20070430181824.GA83415@nagual.pp.ru> <20070430225717.GA7008@VARK.MIT.EDU> <20070501000242.GA19510@nagual.pp.ru> <20070501002817.GA887@nagual.pp.ru> <463690FE.9000209@inse.ru> <20070501010709.GA1304@nagual.pp.ru> <20070501013957.GX13868@elvis.mu.org> <20070501064828.GA3836@nagual.pp.ru> <20070501083032.GA9361@soaustin.net> <20070501084514.GA4889@nagual.pp.ru>

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Andrey,

If the fallout from your changes broke a bunch of things in
-current, then we can expect the fallout in -stable to be
even worse.

Your query about bug reports is a straw man as anticipating
a lot of fallout which has already occured does not require
that I actually have a bug report.

The end result is more users being bitten because a discussion
regarding this has obviously not taken place.

And yes, you're being a jerk. :)

-Alfred

* Andrey Chernov <ache@FreeBSD.org> [070501 01:45] wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 03:30:32AM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote:
> > On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 10:48:28AM +0400, Andrey Chernov wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 06:39:57PM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > > > Using the strategy "commit to -current then suffer the fallout"
> > > > is pretty bogus.
> > > 
> > > The only possible. Nobody can run all ports at once. Kris already promise 
> > > all ports build results with those changes in, lets see.
> > 
> > There have been many runs, in the past, with src changes put into the
> > cluster and then tested, before the src changes were committed.  This is
> > the process that is always used to get new versions of gcc into the tree,
> > for instance.
> 
> This ones are not such vital as gcc changes which can break all programs 
> at once, so can't be ever nearly compared with. For what we have --current 
> for, if every change will go to the cluster first?
> 
> And the question remains:
> Is something currently broken _for_you_? I still have no reports.
> 
> -- 
> http://ache.pp.ru/

-- 
- Alfred Perlstein



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