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Date:      Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:23:20 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Annelise Anderson <andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu>
To:        freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: How would you like the FreeBSD DOC CD presented/indexed? (fwd)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSI.3.94.960705152233.8851A-120000@andrsn.stanford.edu>

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There's probably a lot I'm missing here, but for what it's worth:

I'd like to be able to read the news groups with the newreader of
my choice--tin, right now--or at least one that does a good job
on threads.  

My problem with glimpse has always been that the output is a list
of filenames, sometimes a very long list.  I've got a dos program
(Lotus Magellan) that indexes much like glimpse; but the search
output is a vertically split screen with the list of filename "hits"
on the left and the text of the (first) file on the right.  One can
then arrow down the list of filenames on the left or the text on the
right (and further search for strings).  It's also possible to
extract text and send it to a file.  Magellan also has file viewers,
so it will correctly display text that's zipped or in the format
of a particular word processor or spreadsheet.  Unfortunately they
quit selling it three years ago--guess my enthusiasm was not widely
enough shared.

Zach Heilig mentioned on "questions" recently that he sets up "fake"
newsgroups for reading mailing lists, then reads then with a news
reader....which I think produces threads.  This might be a possibility.
In any case it would be nice to be able to search only for answers
and by date (after YYMM or whatever).

Annelise



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To: hackers@freebsd.org
Subject: How would you like the FreeBSD DOC CD presented/indexed?
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 12:08:00 -0700
Message-ID: <18315.836593680@time.cdrom.com>
From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>

Those of you who got the previous DOC CD (or heard me talk about it)
know that:

1. I had nothing to do with it.

2. I was not particularly pleased at how it was put together.
   To be specific, it wasn't very easy to use and the data was not
   provided in a format that lent itself to searching or re-use.

Now, as a direct result of #2, #1 has changed - I'm going to do the
next DOC CD and I'm currently looking over ways of presenting the
data.  My basic concept so far is that I'll provide the news in its
original form along with a tiny "nntp" equivalent that just delivers
the news off the CDROM to a standard newsreader configured to point at
localhost, and the mailing lists will be provided also in raw form
with a pre-created glimpse databse for easy searching.

Anything else people would like to see on this CD, or ways in which
they'd like the news/mail indexed?  Please speak up now! :-)

Thanks!

					Jordan
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