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Date:      Fri, 05 Mar 2004 11:35:44 -0700 (MST)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        nate@root.org
Cc:        cvs-src@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/acpi/acpiconf acpiconf.c
Message-ID:  <20040305.113544.68047468.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <20040305101907.P30482@root.org>
References:  <200403051335.55836.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20040304.201932.78712700.imp@bsdimp.com> <20040305101907.P30482@root.org>

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In message: <20040305101907.P30482@root.org>
            Nate Lawson <nate@root.org> writes:
: On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, M. Warner Losh wrote:
: > In message: <200403051335.55836.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
: >             "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au> writes:
: > : On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:09, Takanori Watanabe wrote:
: > :
: > : > apm(8) information is only emulated apm status.
: > : > The acpiconf -i informations are not available from apm(8) interface.
: > :
: > : acpiconf -i doesn't show stuff like battery percentage and estimated run time
: > : though..
: > :
: > : I have a program which does and I'm going to shoe horn it into acpiconf and
: > : send diffs if I get some spare time :)
: > :
: > : It's seriously neat to see how many Watt's your laptop is using when you
: > : fiddle with stuff :)
: >
: > I have hacked my acpiconf to print more battery information too.
: 
: I think this is the wrong way to go.  Instead of having N separate
: utilities with their different syntax for N power management systems, we
: should have one user interface for battery and thermal and the PM system
: exports data in that defined format.  My proposed plan is:
: 
: * Unified sysctls for battery and thermal (hw.power.XXX)
: * Make sure both acpi(4) and apm(4) export information through that
: interface.
: * Move apm(8) to use those sysctls.
: * Remove any non-acpi-specific code from acpiconf(8)

Right now you can do acpiconf -i and get:

Battery 0 information
Design capacity:        45000 mWh
Last full capacity:     45000 mWh
Technology:             secondary (rechargeable)
Design voltage:         14800 mV
Capacity (warn):        4500 mWh
Capacity (low):         2250 mWh
Low/warn granularity:   2250 mWh
Warn/full granularity:  40500 mWh
Model number:           DR35
Serial number:          110
Type:                   NiMH
OEM info:

I've just added the following, based on the other ioctl that you can
get battery info from:

State:                  Present
Rate:                   50000 mWh
Cap:                    50000 mWh
Volt:                   10.0 V

Note: My battery/ACPI has a bug where 'RATE' and 'CAP' are always the
same number.  I have a second bug where the CAP is listed as being
more than the last full capacity of the battery.  This makes it very
hard to do estimates for remaining battery life, but I'm not sure what
can be done about it.

I see value in being able to get to the raw battery information from
whatever system is present.

Now, having said that, I have no problems with there being a unified
interface also.  I don't think that we can shoe-horn all systems into
providing all this information.

Warner



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