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Date:      Fri, 22 May 1998 21:58:32 -0400
From:      tcobb <tcobb@staff.circle.net>
To:        "'Mikhail Teterin'" <mi@video-collage.com>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: SMP, Intel PR440FX, cpu monitoring, etc
Message-ID:  <509A2986E5C5D111B7DD0060082F32A402FA65@freya.circle.net>

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I have successfully reduced the price of commercial boxen by requesting
that they NOT place their default OS on it.  For Win95, it often is a
$60 to $80-ish discount, compensating for adding a nicer NIC or some
other feature.

With the Justice Dept. injunction against M$ last year, they are NOT
required to allocate a M$ OS if one is not installed when the box leaves
their factory.  

YMMV,
-Troy Cobb
 Circle Net, Inc.
 http://www.circle.net

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mikhail Teterin [mailto:mi@video-collage.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 3:44 PM
> To: current@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Re: SMP, Intel PR440FX, cpu monitoring, etc
> 
> 
> Garance A Drosihn once stated:
> 
> => Wiped out or not, it will still count as yet another NT computer
> => in the world. Try to make sure they do NOT give you NT license.
> => They'll probably refuse to give you a discount for that, though...
> 
> [...]
> 
> =On the other hand, it does strike me that it might be a good idea to
> =happen to mention FreeBSD while you're ordering a box. If they get a
> =few dozen calls where people say "Wow, this will be a great box for
> =running FreeBSD", that might cause Insight to think FreeBSD is an
> =interesting thing. (I imagine anything that helps to sell equipment
> =would be interesting to them... :-)
> 
> Exactly my point. Your message does not say "stupid", so I'll
> elaborate. Just mention it. They do not have to actually remove
> NT. And Mike was right, the license was already allocated. But it
> will raise the point "Khmmm... Not all of our customers want NT"...
> May be we should try to sell OS-less machines too? Or pre-loaded
> with some other OS? It will not happen overnight, of course, but
> there has to be some feedback to the manufacturer/merchant...
> 
> 	-mi
> 
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