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Date:      Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:20:22 -0500
From:      Keith Stevenson <k.stevenson@louisville.edu>
To:        Omachonu Ogali <oogali@intranova.net>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Parent Logging Patch for sh(1)
Message-ID:  <20000117232022.A87011@osaka.louisville.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10001172101390.96286-100000@hydrant.intranova.net>
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On Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 09:04:07PM -0500, Omachonu Ogali wrote:
> http://tribune.intranova.net/archives/sh-log+access.patch adds uid and
> username logging along with a deny list (/etc/sh.deny).
> 
> And in reference to Keith Stevenson's 'So?', if you can determine the
> point of entry in an intrusion you can backtrack to where it originated,
> the main reason I created that patch was to allow a system administrator
> to backtrack in the case of an intrusion.

I think that we may have miscommunicated.  I have no issues with your
ppid logging patch.  I thought that you were complaining that we should not
have a /bin/sh.  In general, I consider more logging to be better.  However
in the case of a root compromise all local logs are useless since they may
have been altered by the attacker.  (After all, they can't _all_ be script
kidz.)

Regards,
--Keith Stevenson--

-- 
Keith Stevenson
System Programmer - Data Center Services - University of Louisville
k.stevenson@louisville.edu
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