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Date:      Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:45:09 -0800 (PST)
From:      The Utz Family <utz@serv.net>
To:        Mike Porter <mupi@mknet.org>
Cc:        freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Fwd: BSD not finding ESS 1878 sound chip...
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.02.10102150836290.73886-100000@itchy.serv.net>
In-Reply-To: <01021416513101.81778@mukappa.home.com>

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On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Mike Porter wrote:

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> > > pnpbios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum
> >
> > this be plenty bad here......
> >
> > > pnpbios: bad pnpbios checksum?  That shouldn't affect the multimedia
> > > stuff, should it?
> >
> > hell yes! your pnp system has fallen over dead! :-)
> > most sound architectures are PnP aware/dependent.
> >
> Good point, although the BIOS has manual specifications of the audio 
> settings.  I did try compiling a new kernel without options PNPBIOS but that 
> didn't help.
> 
> >
> > well, not having looked at the code, i am going to guess that chip1, 8086
> > and 1234 are placeholder values that some diligent dev added to their code
> > so that the system wouldnt crash if the probe failed to get started ( with
> > 'starting' coming before 'failing', u would be making progess if you could
> > get it to fail :-) )
> >
> I see the point here.
> 
> > my first guess wouold be to toggle the Plug and Play OS settings in the
> > BIOS (meaning that whatever it sez now, make it the other value, yes, no,
> > true, false, etc )
> >
> > you might also try running 'pnpinfo' but i'll bet it dumps core....or at
> > least fails immediately with words to the effect of 'PnP not
> > intitialized...exiting'
> >
> will try those next opportunity I have to run that machine.
> 
> > oh, and the other thing to check, is the soundcard support even tunred on
> > in the bios, usually bios's have an option to turn onboard sound off.
> >
> 
> I have tried with the sound card enabled and disabled in the bios (to see if 
> it makes a difference, and I still get the "chip1 <PCI to other bridge>" 
> line.  Which is part of why I don't think that is necessarily directly 
> related to the multimedia issue.

hmm, i still think that solving the audio problem is gated by solving the
pnp problem. but you are free make your own evaluation.

so you are supposed to have something that gets recognized as a North
Bridge, SouthBridge and PCI to ISA bridge

if your pci to isa bridge is not getting found, then that woudl explain
your problem, *assuming* that the audio chipset is a PnPISA chipset, which
i'll wager it is.

so i am going to hazard a guess that this is the problem. the solution
would be to go look at the bios again and see if there is anything to
fiddle with along the lines of ISA compatibility. If nothing stands out
directly, try assigning at least on IRQ (maybe the expected one for the
chipset) to 'Legacy ISA' and see if that helps.

if bios fiddlement doesnt help then u probably have to write a driver for
that bridge chip.

> And I also tried shuffling around IRQs to a couple of different
> unused values....maybe I should try a used value and see if it breaks
> something....
>
> > have you heard the sound work in windows?
> >
> it had windows when I first got it, and now I cant remember if it palyed 
> sounds or not.  I seem to remeber that it did.
> 
> > the other thing to do is to go into the bios and manually assign the dma
> > and interrupt for the sound parts.
> >
> I tried changing the interrupt to no avail, but not the DMAs.  I figure it 
> should detect the card with or without working DMS's, I can worry about that 
> after I get the card to at least detect.
> 
> > but i wouldnt do that until i tried to sort out the pnp stuff. u might
> > also visit the manufacurers website and see if there is a bios update.
> 
> There is no mention of my model any more on their web site.  One thing I 
> didn't try was emailing their technical support people to see if they have a 
> bios upgrade available but not listed on the web site.  I tried that almsot 
> right off the bat.  
> 
> It seems that I may just be SOL on this particular project.  But I'll give it 
> one more college try <(}:
> 
> mike
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