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Date:      Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:30:32 -0500
From:      "Jeff Palmer" <scorpio@drkshdw.org>
To:        "Sorisio,Chris" <ChrisSorisio@peaktechnical.com>, <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: your mail
Message-ID:  <002d01c1ba2b$eade93e0$0286a8c0@home.lan>
References:  <C2D012DB5BE7D51197010002A53F0E1789F0@sinet001.peaktechnical.com>

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RE: your mailTechnically,  this discussion does belong in -security as =
it's this mindset that KEEPS the internet as insecure as it is.

The entire mentality of "well,  I'd keep up with the security stuff,  =
but I don't like to get all those emails" is just sickening. Limiting =
your knowledge to keep your mailbox clean is definately not =
security-oriented logic.

The fact that this particular individual had a .gov address just served =
as a comedic relief as well.  Simply look at any of the well known =
defacement archives.  Take a look at .gov website defacements.  Not even =
counting actual 'hacked' sites, You might actually smile if you sit back =
and consider what just happened.

Lord knows this list NEVER gets off topic.
Sorry for 'spamming' you.

Feel free to add me to your procmail recipe,  or your MTA's ruleset for =
/dev/null

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Sorisio,Chris=20
  To: 'Jeff Palmer'=20
  Cc: 'freebsd-security@freebsd.org'=20
  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:08 AM
  Subject: RE: your mail


  How about the "One guy said a stupid thing so let's all go and comment =
on it!" mentality?=20

  No offense meant, guys, but may we close this thread now?=20

  Thanks.=20



  -----Original Message-----=20
  From: Jeff Palmer [mailto:scorpio@drkshdw.org]=20
  Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:05 AM=20
  To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org=20
  Cc: ptejad@sandia.gov=20
  Subject: Re: your mail=20




  Typical.=20

  A .gov who gets upset over petty issues.=20
  You gotta love the whole 'I know it's a security list, but..  well..=20
  security isn't as important as my clean mailbox is!' mentality.=20


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Technically,&nbsp; this discussion does belong in =
-security as=20
it's this mindset that KEEPS the internet as insecure as it =
is.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The entire mentality of "well,&nbsp; I'd keep up =
with the=20
security stuff,&nbsp; but I don't like to get all those emails" is just=20
sickening. Limiting your knowledge to keep your mailbox clean is =
definately not=20
security-oriented logic.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The fact that this particular individual had a .gov =
address=20
just served as a comedic relief as well.&nbsp; Simply look at any of the =
well=20
known defacement archives.&nbsp; Take a look at .gov website =
defacements.&nbsp;=20
Not even counting actual 'hacked' sites, You might actually smile if you =
sit=20
back and consider what just happened.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Lord knows this list NEVER gets off =
topic.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Sorry for 'spamming' you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Feel free to add me to your procmail recipe,&nbsp; =
or your=20
MTA's ruleset for /dev/null</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DChrisSorisio@PeakTechnical.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:ChrisSorisio@PeakTechnical.com">Sorisio,Chris</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dscorpio@drkshdw.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:scorpio@drkshdw.org">'Jeff Palmer'</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dfreebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:'freebsd-security@freebsd.org'">'freebsd-security@freebsd.=
org'</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, February 20, =
2002 11:08=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: your mail</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>How about the "One guy said a stupid thing so let's =
all go and=20
  comment on it!" mentality?</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>No offense meant, guys, but may we close this thread =

  now?</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Thanks.</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From: Jeff=20
  Palmer [<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:scorpio@drkshdw.org">mailto:scorpio@drkshdw.org</A>]</FONT=
>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 11:05 AM</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>To: <A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:freebsd-security@freebsd.org">freebsd-security@freebsd.org=
</A></FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>Cc: <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:ptejad@sandia.gov">ptejad@sandia.gov</A></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>Subject: Re: your mail</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Typical.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>A .gov who gets upset over petty issues.</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>You gotta love the whole 'I know it's a security list, =
but..&nbsp;=20
  well..</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>security isn't as important as my =
clean mailbox=20
  is!' mentality.</FONT> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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