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Date:      Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:11:40 -0700
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        Maksim Yevmenkin <maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com>
Cc:        src-committers@freebsd.org, cokane@cokane.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav <des@des.no>, Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>, Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/dev/kbdmux kbdmux.c
Message-ID:  <4405E3DC.7030403@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <bb4a86c70603010925v694676faw545ddfed2668ef27@mail.gmail.com>
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Maksim Yevmenkin wrote:
> On 3/1/06, Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> wrote:
> 
>>Eric Anderson wrote:
>>
>>>Ceri Davies wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 12:39:36AM -0700, Scott Long wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Coleman Kane wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 2/28/06, *Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav* <des@des.no <mailto:des@des.no>>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   "Maksim Yevmenkin" <maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com
>>>>>>   <mailto:maksim.yevmenkin@gmail.com>> writes:
>>>>>>    > we should make a decision which scancodes keyboard drivers
>>>>>>should be
>>>>>>    > returning and change kbdmux(4), syscons(4) etc. to support it.
>>>>>>    >
>>>>>>    > until then, i'm afraid, sun rs232 and powerpc adb keyboard
>>>>>>drivers
>>>>>>    > will have to translate their own scancodes into at scancodes
>>>>>>(just
>>>>>>    > like ukbd(4) does).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Considering that ukbd(4) is the only kbd driver that runs on all
>>>>>>   platforms, it might make sense to have all other drivers translate
>>>>>>   their scancodes to ukbd(4) scancodes and use that in kbdmux(4) and
>>>>>>   syscons(4).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I agree,  especially since atkbdc's are rapidly being replaced by
>>>>>>USB on the platforms they were made for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Long term, yes, but what is the risk/benefit of doing this for 6.1?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If it doesn't work, we look like bloody idiots.  6.2 isn't that far
>>>>away, I'd think that anybody could manage waiting for it a little more
>>>>(especially if it goes into RELENG_6 just after the 6.1 branch).
>>>>
>>>>The above not to be taken as a comment on the change, on which I am not
>>>>informed enough to hold an opinion.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Can we have it all set, built in to GENERIC, but the device hint set to
>>>disabled?  Lots of systems, Dell PowerEdge and similar, come with a
>>>remote access card, which uses a USB tie in.  The only way I've found to
>>>make the console keyboard work after initial install, is to boot single
>>>user, hack /etc/devd.conf, and reboot, which is really ugly.  Many
>>>FreeBSD users get stuck with this, so it would be very nice to have a
>>>quick way to enable the kbdmux at loader time for 6.1, but if it goes in
>>>right after, I'm not going to cry. :)
>>>
>>>Thanks again Maksim for all the work on this!
>>
>>I'd like to turn this on for the next BETA build, get feedback, then
>>decide whether or not to leave it enabled for the final 6.1 release.
>>Maksim, is that OK with you?
> 
> 
> yes, it should be fine. i still need to add/test hints support in
> kbdmux(4). i plan to finish it today. i will also need to MFC all my
> changes to RELENG_6. i'm not sure how much testing we want before MFC.
> should i get a blanket approval from re@?
> 
> thanks,
> max

Instead of rushing this in, let's build BETA3 now without it and then 
spend the next week getting it working at tested and polished.

Scott




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