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Date:      Sun, 28 Feb 1999 18:04:41 -0500 (EST)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@mat.net>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Cc:        "David O'Brien" <obrien@NUXI.com>, The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: gcc 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9902281751060.339-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <31170.920242197@zippy.cdrom.com>

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On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> > Please keep in mind that if, in our haste, we import a compiler that
> > puts instability into FreeBSD, then we've drunk poison.  The feature
> 
> A legit concern, but also realize that all of us are talking about
> 4.0 here - the new compiler would be an issue we'd have up to a full
> year on before the product it's in goes mainstream.  If that's not enough
> time to work out the compiler issues after switching, I can't imagine
> when we WILL have a better time to try and do this then.  Progress
> entails some pain, and if we're unwilling to suffer any at all then
> progress ceases entirely.

I keep on hearing about how we're losing because we don't have the 3
month old latest feature, and I want to show that we're equally
concerned with stability, that's all.  I want forward movement too, but
every time I see something one-sided, like the comments about the CS
courses (and that being in itself enough reason to move forward), I have
to bring this up.   I want us to go to egcs just as much as you do, but
I don't want us to give an obvious show of abandoning our previous
professional approach to things.

Every time I see a post that is one-sidedly aimed towards the latest
untested thing, with not one word about making certain it *works*, I
want to tell folks that going that way, there be dragons.

Yes, let's try egcs.  I want to do buildworlds/installworlds/new kernel
builds here with it for a while.  Do you have the Makefiles you used to
cut it out of your build?  Could I install egcs out of ports, and do
that testing?  I want to do that, if it would contribute.  Lots of it.
I want to show that it's TESTED.  TESTED.  TESTED.


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