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Date:      27 Jun 1998 16:08:03 +0300
From:      Heikki Suonsivu <hsu@clinet.fi>
To:        njs3@doc.ic.ac.uk (Niall Smart)
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: PCVT's death
Message-ID:  <x24sx7c7rf.fsf@katiska.clinet.fi>
In-Reply-To: njs3@doc.ic.ac.uk's message of 21 Jun 1998 02:27:39 %2B0300
References:  <E0ynWR9-0005hn-00@oak67.doc.ic.ac.uk.newsgate.clinet.fi>

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njs3@doc.ic.ac.uk (Niall Smart) writes:
> On Jun 20, 12:45pm, Bill/Carolyn Pechter wrote:
> } Subject: PCVT's death
> > > pcvt is dying, syscons is THE console driver in freebsd.
> > > If we need more functionality we will have to extend the API with 
> > > those new items (allready happend once with the nw "wheel" mouse)
> > > that is inherent through all of the systems drivers, nothing special
> > > here.
> > 
> > I should hope that pcvt wouldn't die.  There are a number 
> > of us who interact with machines that don't know about SCO Ansi
> > or cons25 (including my DEC boxes) and we need something which
> > can do real vt100 compatibility.  I really don't want to have to run
> > screen for this on console screens.
> 
> Well why not tell them about cons25 via termcap or terminfo?

I do not think my vt220's support termcap or terminfo :)

We have been widely using pcvt mostly because it make a lot of things
easier, no hassle with termcap entries when loggin on to any host.  pcvt
also gets erase key right, which helps a lot when everything else is dec or
gnu tradition.

Yes, pcvt is obviously unsupported, currently we get a kernel panic on
plugging in the keyboard.  I do not think it is pcvt alone, as there are no
changes in it and the problem has been there for PS/2 keyboards all the
time; for some reason, couple of months ago the problem also appeared with
non-PS/2 keyboards.  I cannot see any obvious changes in pcvt or kbdio
which would cause this.

Unless sc would be made loadable vt220 emulation, pcvt should stay even
with its shortcomings.

> Niall
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