Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 22:49:40 -0500 From: David Uhring <duhring@charter.net> To: "Chad R. Larson" <chad@DCFinc.com>, wolfgang@lyxys.ka.sub.org (Wolfgang Zenker) Cc: nbm@mithrandr.moria.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Innacurate statements in handbook about buildkernel Message-ID: <00072622494001.00590@dave.uhring.com> In-Reply-To: <200007270327.UAA23756@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <200007270327.UAA23756@freeway.dcfinc.com>
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Wolfgang Zenker wrote: > > But isn't the whole point of the buildkernel method to build the > > kernel using the new tools you just created in /usr/obj? If i got > > this right i think you actually WANT a buildkernel without an existing > > /usr/obj to fail, hopefully with a message to please make buildworld > > first. > > That's how it sounds to me. > > We've also created a situation where space-limited folks =can't= > update just kernel sources. > > The installation process offers a configuration with binaries for > everything and sources for the kernel (so you can build a custom > one, I suppose). > > If the assembler language syntax changes like it just did, for example, > you'll have to choose between fetching the whole thing, or not fixing > kernel bugs. > > Or be pretty smart about the innards of the build process and the > filesystem layout--exactly the skills the person who installed kernel > sources only 'cause he wanted to make a customized kernel won't have. > > -crl Worse than that, the GENERIC kernel provided no support for sound. And someone is forgetting here that in a release version, the new tools will already be installed where they should be in the file tree. Now, the procedure required in stable during the MFC made perfect sense. But, let's face the fact that in a release distribution, there won't even be anything in /usr/obj. Will the previous method of configuring and building a modified kernel continue to work for people who buy or download the release version? Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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