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Date:      Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:18:33 -0700
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_condvar.c kern_synch.c src/sys/sys proc.h
Message-ID:  <20010821171832.B22330@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010821170420.L81307@elvis.mu.org>; from bright@mu.org on Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 05:04:21PM -0500
References:  <200108211842.f7LIgkp03186@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010821134601.J81307@elvis.mu.org> <20010821124428.B17739@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010821164833.D58026@leviathan.inethouston.net> <20010821170420.L81307@elvis.mu.org>

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On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 05:04:21PM -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> * David W. Chapman Jr. <dwcjr@inethouston.net> [010821 16:48] wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 12:44:28PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 01:46:01PM -0500, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> > >=20
> > > > How likely are these sort of fixes going to be able to help
> > > > the perceived instability of -current?  Is -current noticeably
> > > > unstable or do we just have the usual crowd of people screaming
> > > > sort of like what was going on a couple of months ago.
> > > >=20
> > > > "current is broken"
> > > > "no it's not"
> > > > "yes it is"
> > > > "give me a crashdump"
> > > > ":P"
> > >=20
> > > Most of the problems I was having weren't easily reproducible or didnt
> > > cause panics, just lockups :-(
> > >=20
> > I am getting some lockups too, but they only last for around 30=20
> > seconds, sometimes they get so bad I get a BUS I/O Error when I try=20
> > to do anything in some applications during the lockup.
>=20
> This is a pretty useless bug report.
>=20
> Please read the section in the handbook about kernel debugging
> and get us a useful traceback/crashdump as well as systat type
> info.

This is the same problem I have.  It's not a panic, so there's no
traceback to obtain, and DDB is locked out for the duration of the
freeze, and doesn't show anything useful I can determine once the
system unfreezes.

Kris

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