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Date:      Thu, 23 Jan 1997 12:21:59 -0500 (EST)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@glue.umd.edu>
To:        Lars Jonas Olsson <jonas@mcs.net>
Cc:        hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: DX4-100 and sig-11's
Message-ID:  <Pine.OSF.3.95.970123121543.25612B-100000@maryann.eng.umd.edu>
In-Reply-To: <199701231644.KAA17843@Jupiter.Mcs.Net>

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On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Lars Jonas Olsson wrote:

>  I'm testing an older 486DX4-100 computer with FreeBSD. I've run85
> cycles of memtest-86 on it with no problem, but FreeBSD dies when
> starting up (after npx probe).
>  The system has a PVI-486SP3 motherboard, Award BIOS, 3 PCI slots, SiS
> 85C496 and 85X497 chipset and Intel DX4 A80486DX4100 SK051. The CPU
> has a "TOUCH H9512" (CPU made before Dec. 1995) sticker on it.  Any
> ideas? The BIOS will let me choose write-thru or write-back for the
> caches but no disable. I've tried both options.

Point 1: There is NO program whatsoever, under any operating system,
	 that does an even slightly reliable job of testing memory,
	 so disregard the memtest results.
Point 2: There IS a reliable memory test method, it involved using
	 a hardware based memory tester.  Most vendors of memory
	 either have one or have access to one, so you have to ask
	 them to do your testing.
Point 3: Unix operating systems (as a class, not just FreeBSD) push
	 memory much harder than any dos program, and will easily
	 catch problems that are invisible to dos memory checkers.
Point 4: Altho they _do_ catch memory problems, Unix OSs are miserable
	 at telling you _where_ the problem is; see Point 2.

The FreeBSD OS is solid, so if it's bombing, you have a hardware problem.
I'm not saying it's memory, perhaps something else is set up wrong.

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