Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:05:33 -0300 From: Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi@gmail.com> To: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Gregory Shapiro <gshapiro@freebsd.org>, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BIND in the base (Was: Re: tmux(1) in base) Message-ID: <19e9a5dc0909221505k3d55d070u741d86e03d2316a6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20090922213127.GB84817@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <20090922135435.36a3d40e@lazybytes.org> <4AB90448.9020706@FreeBSD.org> <19e9a5dc0909221014o14e88c96ubf32142b85d781d@mail.gmail.com> <20090922173517.GB63149@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20090922200449.GL19207@rugsucker.local> <19e9a5dc0909221329j5757c3f7kc23e94ea8f26a05@mail.gmail.com> <20090922213127.GB84817@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
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On 9/22/09, Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 05:29:25PM -0300, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >> On 9/22/09, Gregory Shapiro <gshapiro@freebsd.org> wrote: >> >> I suppose it doesn't matter to you that sendmail is actually >> >> maintained by Greg Shapiro, VP, CTO of Sendmail, Inc. >> > >> > While I appreciate the vote of confidence, it doesn't, and it shouldn't. >> > I'll continue to maintain sendmail in the base as long as it is welcome >> > there. If the project wants it moved out, that is not up to me (though >> > I hope it stays). >> > >> > I haven't spent a lot of time looking at DMA, but some requirements that >> > pop to mind for it to be a replacement would be things like accepting >> > local mail via SMTP (e.g., for MUAs which use SMTP submission) and >> > supporting STARTTLS and SMTP AUTH for talking to the upstream MTA. >> >> Dear Mr. Gregory Shapiro: >> >> I'm writing this letter to let you know that I have nothing personal >> against either your person, your professional work, your contributions >> to the FreeBSD project, your personal and professional merits or >> anything at all. >> >> I was prompt with an dubiously honest question and I replied with an >> honest answer, as I know no other way, and yet still stand in the >> belief that the use of names as means to declare any authority, be it >> moral or otherwise, constitutes no truth nor does any good to reason. >> > > Then you completely missed the point of my response. sendmail > is being maintained the people that actual wrote the code. If > dma replaces sendmail, will the authors of dma become FreeBSD > committers and maintain dma in the same manner that sendmail > has been maintained. Then you completely missed _my_ point which is the same point other posters have been making: so much whining for (tiny) tmux when we still have (huge) sendmail in base? to turn the discussion into yours (who's gonna maintain dma should we replace sendmail?). Regards Gonzalohome | help
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