Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 19:26:32 -0700 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> To: Randall Hopper <rhh@ct.picker.com> Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bin/5296 Message-ID: <1636.894248792@time.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 03 May 1998 13:02:25 EDT." <19980503130225.A5086@ct.picker.com>
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I think I should also chime in here at this point to note that many of the PRs which phk considered "informational" were moved into a suspended state with the express intention of then moving the suspended PRs en-masse to the control of a _different system_ in the future, a system better suited to tracking problems of a less critical but nonetheless important nature. Any PRs marked closed which are felt by their submitters to have continued merit can also be transfered just as easily as suspended ones - what we simply need is a better system of organizing all of them. I can also tell you most emphatically that GNATs is *not* such a system and has major shortcomings when it comes to managing many thousands of PRs, especially over the long-term. As phk already said, we're now having problems with the sheer number of PRs totally obscuring some of the really important ones, leading to serious problems going unfixed for far longer periods than necessary, and that is ALSO a significant problem - you can't shoot down one solution as unworkable without exacting significant penalties elsewhere. To put it another way, we are drowning in PR entries with a system that offers no life-preservers, and something had to be done in the short term to allow us to at least address the priority 1 PRs we've accumulated and, in many cases, neglected for months. It seems that with all the java weenies we have out there, we could get *somebody* to write us a little web-based "long term PR" manager with better support for searching, indexing and threading together (maybe even visually, that would be nifty) the long-running commentary that seems to distinguish our longer-term and frequently religious PRs. Then we could let these issues hang around for as long as people wanted them to, perhaps even doing a better job of matching up people looking for work with work that needed doing from the PR database. Hey, a man can dream, can't he? :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message
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