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Date:      Mon, 13 Oct 2025 11:06:02 -0700
From:      Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
To:        Olivier Certner <olce@freebsd.org>, fs@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: openat("./...", O_CREAT) fails even though the directory exists
Message-ID:  <CAJ-Vmo=x7w-Us8fwG6O6k5qJ_QV0bCJgxF4mAMFFQd2Y4c7yeQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 at 03:23, Lexi Winter <ivy@freebsd.org> wrote:

> Olivier Certner wrote in <6142242.Zv9zXsTiuT@ravel>:
> > > i suspect the fix will be in pkgbase somewhere: for example, we
> > > could restart sendmail on upgrade, or tell the user to do that.
> >
> > Most probably it will need too, yes.
>
> proposed fix at https://reviews.freebsd.org/D53061.  i really don't like
> this (nothing else restarts services on upgrade) but this is probably the
> least disruptive solution for users.
>

I'm curious - why are we NOT restarting services after an upgraded package?


-a

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">...</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gm=
ail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 13 Oct 2=
025 at 03:23, Lexi Winter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ivy@freebsd.org">ivy@freebs=
d.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex">Olivier Certner wrote in &lt;6142242.Zv9zXsTiuT@ravel&gt;:<br>
&gt; &gt; i suspect the fix will be in pkgbase somewhere: for example, we<b=
r>
&gt; &gt; could restart sendmail on upgrade, or tell the user to do that.<b=
r>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Most probably it will need too, yes.<br>
<br>
proposed fix at <a href=3D"https://reviews.freebsd.org/D53061" rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">https://reviews.freebsd.org/D53061</a>.=C2=A0 i re=
ally don&#39;t like<br>
this (nothing else restarts services on upgrade) but this is probably the<b=
r>
least disruptive solution for users.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I&=
#39;m curious - why are we NOT restarting services after an upgraded packag=
e?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-a</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div><=
/div>

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