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Date:      Mon, 1 Jun 2015 15:39:30 -0400
From:      Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
To:        galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu
Cc:        Jon Radel <jon@radel.com>, FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: best options for a *WORKING* MTA
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On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
wrote:

>
> On Mon, June 1, 2015 2:11 pm, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> > Yes I did I said several time.... I specifically said I can connect to
> > port
> > 25 from localhost but not remotely... I fixed it with exim so it is not
> an
> > issue any more but the point is the default sendmail config is simply
> > broken and so badly documented that making it work as described in the
> > handbook or on various sites for 10.1 is very confusing
>
> Disclaimer: I do not use sendmail, during last decade and a half I use
> postfix, and am very happy about it (postfix was written with security in
> mind...) However, occasionally it takes me some time after setting up new
> FreeBSD box before I switch to postfix, and in an interim, I never noticed
> sendmail to be broken. Again, I'm not a big fan of sendmail (though waaay
> back "configure sendmail" was part of sysadmin test I had to pass), but to
> say sendmail config on FreeBSD is broken is unfair IMHO.
>

Then tell me how this is not broken when the default behaviour (even after
editing local-host-names):

from Localhost:
telnet localhost 25
[standard SMTP output]

from any other machine:
telnet mailserver 25
connection refused

and no where in the handbook or documentation does it a) say this is the
default behavior and b) how to fix it with installing SASL or something
else from ports (violating the idea that the base system works out of the
box with no additions)

-- 
Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org



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