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Date:      Mon, 05 Mar 2001 18:34:52 -0800
From:      Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Cc:        Evren Yurtesen <yurtesen@ispro.net.tr>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, dce <dce@squish.org>, security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 31337 
Message-ID:  <200103060235.f262Zs094331@cwsys.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:09:19 PST." <20010305120919.X8663@fw.wintelcom.net> 

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In message <20010305120919.X8663@fw.wintelcom.net>, Alfred Perlstein 
writes:
> * Evren Yurtesen <yurtesen@ispro.net.tr> [010305 11:30] wrote:
> > cant it be a person who has a shell and execute some daemons etc ? like
> > ircd?
> > 
> > why does he need to reinstall his system?
> 
> Oh, and as far as why a complete reinstall is a good idea, iss because
> you have _no idea_ as to how far the person has gone to install back
> doors in the system, only a complete reinstall has a good chance of
> fixing them all.

... then install tripwire.  This will help identify changed files.  Not 
a perfect solution, as tripwire can be circumvented, but it is more 
difficult.  Then keep a copy of your database offline and/or sign your 
database.

Alternatively run at securelevel > 0.  Once again not a perfect 
solution.


Regards,                         Phone:  (250)387-8437
Cy Schubert                        Fax:  (250)387-5766
Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team   Internet:  Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca
Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA
Province of BC

> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Evren
> > 
> > > dce <dce@squish.org> writes:
> > > > I have noticed the following ports open on my FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE machin
> e
> > > > 
> > > > 31337/tcp  open        Elite
> > > > 6667/tcp   open        irc
> > > 
> > > You're owned. Take your box off the net, take a backup, reinstall from
> > > trusted media (preferably original CD-ROMs from BSDI), transfer data
> > > (*no* executables, scripts or configuration files!) from backup. And
> > > get some security clue; the security(7) man page is a good place to
> > > start, though far from complete.
> > > 
> > > DES
> > > -- 
> > > Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org
> > > 
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> > > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> -- 
> -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org]
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