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Date:      Tue, 8 May 2001 14:15:07 +0200
From:      Cejka Rudolf <cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz>
To:        "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>, asami@FreeBSD.ORG, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master
Message-ID:  <20010508141507.C94054@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz>
In-Reply-To: <20010507151321.A12712@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 03:13:21PM -0700
References:  <20010507125604P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010507163119.H3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <20010507144618.A12252@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010507164650.J3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <20010507150006.C12252@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010507170242.K3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <20010507151321.A12712@dragon.nuxi.com>

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David O'Brien wrote (2001/05/07):
> I assume
> there will be a small number of sites that will mirror every FreeBSD bit
> offered, but from the feedback of late, I don't think most main-line
> mirrors will.

Yes, I think that FreeBSD has MANY mirrors, but MANY of them are not
up to date and it is hard to orientate among such big number of mirrors.
I have checked it many times, when I tested when and which fresh iso images
and releases various sites carry. If I were a normal FreeBSD user, I would
not use any FreeBSD mirror site, because I simply could not believe to
them. I would like to see much lower number of primary mirror sites, but
with much higher quality and credibility. What about splitting up a list
of mirror sites into primary (proven, credible) and secondary
(incomplete, slower) categories?

Imagine 4.4-RELEASE and all 100+ (?) mirror sites syncing
and waiting for 4.4-release.iso over rsync :-)

> > > If it is truly just a disk space issue, we should investigate if we can
> > > get subsidized disks for well-connected mirrors.  
> > > BW is really the issue, what is expensive, and what we lack.
> > Yup, but space is also an issue and should not be ignored.
> Yes, to a point.

If I put known issues into an ordered list, I get myself:

1) Management issues (time wasting - here are flowing big $$) - there
   are missing any apparent future plans about changes on master
   ftp site, there are still unreadable files and I still do not
   understand why and so on
2) Bandwidth limitations
3) Disk space limitations

-- 
Rudolf Cejka   (cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz;  http://www.fee.vutbr.cz/~cejkar)
Brno University of Technology, Faculty of El. Engineering and Comp. Science
Bozetechova 2, 612 66  Brno, Czech Republic

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