Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:47:11 -0800 From: "Joshua Lokken" <inspector.us@omicnet.com> To: "WolfRyder" <wolfryder@qwest.net>, <freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: From newbie to newbie: Observations... Message-ID: <OAEGJMOGEKPEGCNHFDFFEEFJCDAA.inspector.us@omicnet.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030219185139.00a865f0@pop.omah.uswest.net>
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C2D8F7.3F9CFD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Indeed! Sounds like I'm not the only one out there! I've been at the BSD thing for a year and a half or so, but I approached it from the workstation/mutlimedia end, then went on to begin to learn about the server side. I'm running a 4.6.2 gateway, 4.7r web/(mail?)server, and two workstations, 4-stable and 5.0r. It's been nothing but rewarding, and I kick myself for all the time I spent totally ignorant of BSD. Reinstalls just seem to be the easiest, quickest way to restore a system after a foobar when you're in the learning stage. It seems that as you learn, reinstalling seems less necessary (unless you make sweeping permissions changes without understanding what you're doing) to correct most mistakes/problems. Yeah, FreeBSD rocks! It has really inspired me to learn more and more by putting a friendly face of sorts onto an intimidating set of tools. The documentation for FreeBSD and its related issues is absolutely incredible, and there are some brilliant folks supporting it. Thanks whole-heartedly to all the FreeBSD contributors, maintainers, staff, and users! Joshua > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of WolfRyder > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:09 PM > To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: From newbie to newbie: Observations... > > > At 06:07 PM 2/19/03 +0100, Henrik W Lund wrote: > >Hi, my name is Henrik and I'm a FreeBSD newbie. > > > Hey Henrik! > > I'm also a FreeBSD newbie and will probably consider myself > one for a very > long time to come! > > My experiences are in stereo as I am setting up 2 boxes at > the same time. > One is for work and the other is mine. They both are/will be > webserver/database servers when I'm done with them. (or else > they'll be > piles of rubbish cause I have a sledge hammer around here > somewhere ;-) ) > > Reinstalls...LOL! On 1 machine I've reinstalled 4 times, on > the other 3 > times. I kept messing up the makeworld/installworld part by not > understanding mergemaster on mine. The server for my job had > a problem with > the hard drive that finally required me to zero it out, then the 3rd > install/setup went beautifully. > > I also, thanks to this wonderful list, learned how to do > backups to the > zip drive (yeah!!) so anything I change in the /etc, /www, > user/var or > anywhere else can be safely backed up before I mess with > anything else. > > What's really cool is actually remembering what commands are > needed to do > tasks like starting/stopping apache, editing configs and > firewall files, > making backup kernel configs, updating ports, restarting > services and all > sorts of things :-) > > I work with the command prompt because 1)I think that's the way most > production UNIX machines are run, less memory-intensive that way and > 2)these computers are strictly servers, not for desktop and > don't need a > graphical interface. That joy I'm saving for this machine (an > NT) and I'll > get around to converting when I feel more comfortable messing > with FreeBSD :-) > > Ya'll Rock! > > Carol who goes back to setting up her server. The other is > up and running > and needs a little fine-tuning, but it works. 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