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Date:      Thu, 7 Aug 2003 02:15:26 -0400
From:      James Quick <jq@quick.com>
To:        Juli Mallett <jmallett@landmarknetworks.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ipfw - default to accept + bootp = confusion.
Message-ID:  <891767A2-C89E-11D7-8364-003065C496DC@quick.com>
In-Reply-To: <1060230124.65628.15.camel@sprout>

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On Thursday, August 7, 2003, at 12:22  AM, Juli Mallett wrote:

> Does someone have any idea what approach to take for the following
> scenario?  I'm leaning towards a compile time failure, or an 
> informative
> panic at the beginning of bootp...
>
> You have IPFIREWALL, but not the default to accept option, and you have
> BOOTP.  The BOOTP stuff will fail in sosend with EACCESS (informatively
> printed as "13"), because of IPFW, and this may be slightly non-obvious
> to people who haven't dealt with early ipfw interference before.
>
> If not compile time failure / panic, I'd say probably we want some way
> to notify a user in general of ipfw stopping pre-init operation, but I
> don't want to add the concept of runlevels, and don't know if there's
> anything there currently to do detection of if we've hit that point 
> yet.

If the default rule controlled by IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT,
default_rule.cmd[0].opcode, were made accessible via a sysctl.
then bootp could check it and produce an informative message.
Or, if possible try to insert a rule into the kernel restrictive enough 
to
be safe.  On the one hand it's a firewall, and you don't want to be
making assumptions about trust on behalf of the user.  On the other
hand, we just accepted a kernel from someone, and now want
to get some data for a root partition, so if we cannot trust the host 
we're
booting from, what's the point?

Given the above, would it be possible, to embed a small function
taking just a pair of addresses and masks, and use that to add a rule 
so that
this process could continue? After using sysctl to verify the 
predicament,
you could then try installing one (or a few) rules to trust the machines
that are booting us.  Trust the server running bootpd, trust the dchp 
and
nfs server, or just trust the network+submask in a single rule.

the following is just a rough guess from looking at ip_fw.c.
I don't know how far off it is to being valid.

         s = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_RAW, IPPROTO_RAW);
         if (s < 0)
                 err(EX_UNAVAILABLE, "socket");
         memset(&rule, 0, sizeof rule);
         rule.fw_flg |= IP_FW_F_ACCEPT;
         rule.fw_prot = IPPROTO_IP;
         rule.fw_src =  /* the bootp servers address
         rule.fw_smsk = ~0; /* Does all 1s mean just from that host? */
         rule.fw_dst =  /* Is our addr known yet? */
          rule.fw_dmsk = ??;
	rule.fw_flg |= (IP_FW_F_OUT|IP_FW_F_IN); /* you could do both 
directions */
         i = sizeof(rule);
         if (getsockopt(s, IPPROTO_IP, IP_FW_ADD, &rule, &i) == -1)
                 err(EX_UNAVAILABLE, "getsockopt(%s)", "IP_FW_ADD");

Is any of this reasonable or I am just being naive? (I'm new here.)



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