Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 08:46:17 -0600 From: Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org> To: Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org> Cc: "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" <freebsd-testing@freebsd.org>, "jenkins-admin@freebsd.org" <jenkins-admin@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Create freebsd-testing-results@ list for Jenkins results? Message-ID: <CAOtMX2hp7oUS%2Bx=02GZ4VpsCxgGBFqxMY2eZMTan0-HTmHrruA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAG=rPVfBxY0Kehgos%2ByiUKVh0%2BWWsGvR1wVWAOgQGQrm7i1aPA@mail.gmail.com> References: <56800B8F-E49D-4B8E-B975-EB16299C0028@gmail.com> <CAG=rPVfBxY0Kehgos%2ByiUKVh0%2BWWsGvR1wVWAOgQGQrm7i1aPA@mail.gmail.com>
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I completely agree with Craig. Please do keep annoying people on the freebsd-current list. But also please snip the messages down to a shorter length. -Alan On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@freebsd.org> wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, I am opposed to this. > > The minute you push these email notifications to a separate list, > then the whole utility of Jenkins goes down, because most people won't > be subscribe to the list. > > The whole point of running a CI system like Jenkins is to unfortunately be > a bit annoying > and "in your face". FreeBSD doesn't have a QA department to triage > failures and notify > developers, so sending e-mails to > targeted lists is important. As it is, FreeBSD people don't subscribe to > all the same lists, so no matter what, > you can't make everyone happy. > > At this link: > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/current-stable.html > > it mentions that bulletins about the state of the FreeBSD-CURRENT branch > go to the freebsd-current@ list. So that's why it is OK for e-mail > notifications > from the old Tinderbox or Jenkins to go to that list. > > I have received e-mails privately thanking me for setting this stuff up. > Some folks (who are not FreeBSD committers) monitor lists like > freebsd-current@, > and when they see Jenkins failure e-mails > on the list, that gives them a clue that they should hold off on updating > the tree. > > So freebsd-current@ is used to notifiy committers *and* non-committers > about the > state of the branch. > > jenkins is already configured to send e-mails to several lists, such as > freebsd-current, freebsd-stable, freebsd-doc, freebsd-i386, depending on > the build job, > so we don't send every e-mail to freebsd-current for all the builds that we > do. > > So Jenkins is doing its job, even if it annoys some people and makes some > people > like Steve Kargl unhappy. > > What we can consider doing is reducing the number of lines in the e-mall > notification, > to prevent very large e-mails from being sent to the list. There may be > tunables > in Jenkins that we can look at for this. That is worth exploring. > > No matter what, you can't make everyone happy with build break e-mails. > > However, pushing them off to the side is not the direction we should be > going in. > > -- > Craig > > > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Garrett Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> As some know who are subscribed to freebsd-current, the list gets >> spammed a lot with test results (pass/fail transitions mostly) for the >> Build_Image_and_Run_Tests_in_Bhyve_HEAD job. I was wondering if anyone >> would be opposed to creating another list to capture the results, e.g. >> freebsd-testing-results@FreeBSD.org, and if so, would you subscribe to >> the list? >> Thanks! >> -NGie >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-testing@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-testing > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-testing-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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