Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:43:55 +0100 From: Damien Fleuriot <ml@my.gd> To: Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle Message-ID: <4F196F9B.3050506@my.gd> In-Reply-To: <20120120133826.GB16676@FreeBSD.org> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1112211415580.19710@kozubik.com> <4F153AE3.9010602@my.gd> <20120120133826.GB16676@FreeBSD.org>
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On 1/20/12 2:38 PM, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Damien, > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:09:55AM +0100, Damien Fleuriot wrote: > D> I'm having an increasingly difficult time defending FreeBSD in our > D> company against the advances of debian kfree which is much easier to > D> maintain. > D> Can we get back to the 4.x release style and, hopefully, see some 9.7, > D> 9.8... ? > D> > D> Check this PR I opened some months ago: > D> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=161123&cat=kern > D> > D> It was planned for 9.0-RELEASE, there is no mention of 8.x > D> That's just the kind of problem John raises here. > D> > D> I can't keep on defending FreeBSD when the minor fix to a major bug > D> isn't backported, and only makes it to the next major version, 4 or 5 > D> months from now. > > Hey, what's the problem here? Fix for kern/161123 has been committed to > stable/8! > > You reminded me, and I promptly did merge, w/o any argument, albeit I have > no ability to test it properly on stable/8. I trust you, that you have tested > in on stable/8, but if anything breaks, guess who would be blamed: me or you? > Don't be mistaken, I greatly appreciate the work you put into this and the time you devoted to fixing this issue which was *a real annoyance* in our case. I'm not saying you didn't merge it Gleb, I'm saying for a loooooooong time I had to manually patch the 8.2-RELEASE boxes, because for some reason that I don't know/understand, the patch couldn't (and still hasn't been, I guess) be merged with 8.2-RELEASE. Actually, on topic, what prevents patches from being merged with -RELEASE, as opposed to waiting for a new -RELEASE bump ? Regarding the patch, we've been running it since I submitted it on over 20 firewalls and they're all humming happily.
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