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Date:      Wed, 03 Sep 2003 00:27:05 +0100
From:      Christopher Raven <c.raven@uk.cian.net>
To:        Lachlan <lachlan@fatpanda.net>, freebsd@yazzy.org
Cc:        freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: Chosing a hosting server.
Message-ID:  <9400266.1062548825@[10.0.0.3]>

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take a look at mikrotik.com for some good, off-the-shelf wireless=20
solutions... you can limit your clients at source using the client routers=20
(you can remotely control them). They can also act as proxies for network=20
services etc... the cost of these things is so low you would have to be=20
seriously tight on budget not to at least consider them.


CR




--On 03 September 2003 09:07 +1000 Lachlan <lachlan@fatpanda.net> wrote:

> Well,
>
> You already seem to know enough i would say. Using DUMMYNET between your
> 50 wireless nodes would control them enough for a start. With hardware
> for your servers, it should be simple enough. Just don't purchase cheap
> crap and you'll be fine.
>
> Regards,
> 	Lachlan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Martin Jessa
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 6:03 AM
> To: lachlan@fatpanda.net
> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: Chosing a hosting server.
>
>
> I have about one day to build the network infrastructure.
> I've been running services with misc purpose as long as I can remember =
but
> it's the first time when I have to plan a setup for 5000 users.
> What I am most worried about is what kind of hardware to use.
> I.e I am not sure if I can set up failover FreeBSD servers as the main
> front routers for my network. The deal is I would get fiber optical cable
> to my server room which will get hooked to a Cisco router. Then I have to
> divide the network between about 50 wireless nodes, each with 50-90 mbit
> link.
> All the nodes have to talk to my server park with misc services like bw
> limiting, mail,web,radius for user auth, live streaming etc.
> Now, I have no idea how to hook the nodes together with the servers =
behind
> my routers so that the traffic doesn't get choked.
> I would have to limit bw of the users on those front routers as well, =
most
> propably with DUMMYNET or ALTQ.
> I also have to plan server(s) for web and email hosting. I have to =
deceide
> how to split them, what CPU's to use and how much HD space (each user =
will
> get about 30 megs of email and 30 megs of web space).
> I can set up all the services with my eyes closed but I have zero
> experience with that big amount of traffic.
> Please give me an advice guys, I really feel lost here :)
>
> Thanks a lot in advance.
>
> YazzY
>
>> Just about managing users,emails and quota's,
>>
>> a program like plesk would probably do it. I don't know a lot about it,
>> but it might be worth having a look at.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> 	Lachlan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Charles Hatvany Sent:
>> Friday, August 29, 2003 12:13 AM
>> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; freebsd@yazzy.org
>> Subject: Re: Chosing a hosting server.
>>
>>
>> Martin,
>>
>> DNS should allow you to split the mail from the web by pointing the MX
>> and the A records to different places.  Ditto for ftp, if that is set up
>> with a different URL (such as ftp.xxxx.com).  So you could have 3
>> servers doing different services.  The database could be on any of the
>> servers as long as you can mount the filesystem on the other two.
>>
>> I'll let someone else answer the question about the tools - I would also
>> be interested in that answer.
>>
>> Charles Hatvany
>>
>>>>> Martin Jessa <freebsd@yazzy.org> 8/28/03 9:15:32 AM >>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> I am planning setup of misc services for an Wireless ISP.
>> They want to host mail and websites of their users.
>> The server will run mail (imap, pop3), web and ftp services which will
>> all authenticate users against the same sql database.
>> They want to have about 5000+ customers.
>> Each of the users will have granted 30 megs web space and about the same
>> for their emails.
>> The problem is chosing a server that can handle all that. I could split
>> the services between different servers but I am not aware of an
>> application that can allow me to do so.
>> Any suggestions ?
>> As I said I would also need some sort of tool to be able to easly handle
>> things like adding new users with custom email and web quota, ability to
>> add new email addresses for one user, it should also be able to talk to
>> a radius server which will authenticate connections with the same
>> database as the mail server.
>> It does not have to be an open source application.
>> Any help appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> YazzY
>>
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