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Date:      Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:23:37 +0200
From:      Luigi Rizzo <rizzo@iet.unipi.it>
To:        Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
Cc:        FreeBSD Net <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, ipfw@freebsd.org, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Subject:   Re: ipfw add skipto tablearg....
Message-ID:  <20080819182337.GA25703@onelab2.iet.unipi.it>
In-Reply-To: <20080820031409.V41971@sola.nimnet.asn.au>
References:  <48926C02.6030308@elischer.org> <Pine.BSF.3.96.1080819152451.21367A-100000@gaia.nimnet.asn.au> <20080819133101.GA23276@onelab2.iet.unipi.it> <20080820031409.V41971@sola.nimnet.asn.au>

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On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 04:06:05AM +1000, Ian Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
>  > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:12:04PM +1000, Ian Smith wrote:
...
>  > > Until $someone adds a direct skipto target jump at the virtual machine
>  > > code level - big recalc hit when adding/deleting rules/sets I suppose -
>  > > it's still the fastest way to get from a to b, where b > a
>  > 
>  > you mean with tables-based skipto targets ? Because the regular
>  > skipto has been a constant-time op forever, even in ipfw1 i believe,
>  > invalidating the target cache on a change and recomputing it the
>  > fly at the first request.
> 
> Thanks; I'd completely missed the caching of skipto targets before, and 
> it's all so well commented too.  blushing, but glad for the good news.
> 
> But yes I was pondering Julian's patch, which has to lookup_next_rule 
> every time, and also Mike's bending of divert reentry rule number in 
> ipfw-classifyd with similar intent, which also has to hunt forward in 
> linear time for its target rule - or am I missing something else here?

well, you can use a hash table to support that. It shouldn't be so bad
to implement, flow tables already use hash tables so one can reuse the same code.

>  > > Speaking of which, should ipfw whinge when asked to skip backwards,
>  > > which it can't, confirmed on a recent browse re Mike's ipfw-classifyd
>  > > and a local test months ago.
>  > 
>  > right... but the error can only be reliably detected in the kernel,
>  > as the rule number is not always known when the rule is added.
> 
> Yes I meant at run-time.  On second thoughts, it'd be too easy a way to 

actually you can do it at insertion time, it's just that you cannot
do it in userland as other checks before inserting the rule.

	cheers
	luigi


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