Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:35:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Gordon Tetlow <gordont@bluemtn.net> To: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Cc: <jlemon@flugsvamp.com>, <darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au>, <jlemon@FreeBSD.ORG>, <cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG>, <cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG>, <core@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Procedure (Was Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet fil.c ....) Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.33.0106071122160.94127-100000@sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com> In-Reply-To: <20010607111600X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > Hmm. I recall that one of the participants in the discussion > > happened to be a certain "jkh", and at no time was it brought > > up to me that "hey, there is a procedure XXX to follow". > > Then perhaps the committer's guide should be amended to reflect it. I > always thought of this as one of those "common sense" guidelines that > was so well-understood as to be redundant in printed form. I was > watching the conversation, yes, but my assumption also was that when > this was actually eventually done, it would be done by all the usual > procedures. Documenting procedure is a good thing, no matter how common sense it may seem to you. Remember you've been working on FreeBSD much longer than a vast majority of the committers. I work in an environment where *nothing* is documented. I can't tell you how many times I've screwed things up. But back to the matter at hand. I think that the handling of this situation was about as fscked up as it can get. Jonathen should have sent a HEADS UP! to the relavent lists. Yes. But I would also contend that Jordan shouldn't have condemned him in a public forum (Praise in public, condemn in private). It only hurts feelings when you say you are going to file a formal complaint (or some such thing) against a person. Did I really need to know that? No. The only other person (outside of core) that needed to know might have been Darren, just so he could get some reason as to why it all happened and how the situation should have been handled. This whole thing should have dropped the public lists early on and been a discussion between darrenr, jlemon, and core. When <name withheld> broke -stable consistently a while back, that was handled with class. In a nice, off-line discussion that a vast majority didn't know about. Heck, the only reason I know is that I actually pay attention to the administrative bits of the repo. This situation should have been handled like that. BTW, core, if you are still looking for someone as your secretary. I'd be up for the job. Okay, flame away =) -gordon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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