Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 11:42:34 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> To: Igor Mozolevsky <mozolevsky@gmail.com> Cc: RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>, freebsd security <freebsd-security@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs Message-ID: <20171210194234.GJ5901@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <CADWvR2jxCH=-VTY1W3wzFhzo8mWSjZqeVpVrCQFNobZepWbqKg@mail.gmail.com> References: <5A2709F6.8030106@grosbein.net> <11532fe7-024d-ba14-0daf-b97282265ec6@rawbw.com> <8788fb0d-4ee9-968a-1e33-e3bd84ffb892@heuristicsystems.com.au> <20171205220849.GH9701@gmail.com> <20171205231845.5028d01d@gumby.homeunix.com> <CADWvR2gVn8H5h6LYB5ddwUHYwDtiLCuYndsXhJywi7Q9vNsYvw@mail.gmail.com> <20171210173222.GF5901@funkthat.com> <CADWvR2iGQOtcU=FnU-fNsso2eLCCQn=swnOLoqws%2B33V8VzX1Q@mail.gmail.com> <20171210190257.GH5901@funkthat.com> <CADWvR2jxCH=-VTY1W3wzFhzo8mWSjZqeVpVrCQFNobZepWbqKg@mail.gmail.com>
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Igor Mozolevsky wrote this message on Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 19:17 +0000:
> On 10 December 2017 at 19:02, John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> wrote:
>
> > Igor Mozolevsky wrote this message on Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 17:39 +0000:
> > > On 10 December 2017 at 17:32, John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > The discussion has been for svn updates over http, not for
> > freebsd-update
> > > > updates which are independantly signed and verified.. There is
> > currently
> > > > no signatures provided via SVN to validate any source received via
> > http.
> > >
> > > There has been no instance of in-transit compromise reported since SVN
> > was
> > > introduced.
> >
> > So, you require an exploit in the wild before you'll patch?
>
> No, I'm saying it's not a realistic threat model! If the threat is the
> integrity of the source code in transit, then it'd be way cheaper and way
> more reasonable to implement a Merkle Tree-like verification with each
> revision.
Then you should be fine w/ http for banking sites, since it's not realistic
that your ISP will MITM your connection to steal money from you, right?
I don't know of a single instance of an ISP MITM'ing banking transactions
to steal money.
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