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Date:      Mon, 17 Apr 2017 16:46:25 -0400
From:      "George Neville-Neil" <gnn@neville-neil.com>
To:        "Sevan / Venture37" <venture37@gmail.com>
Cc:        "Ryan Stone" <rysto32@gmail.com>, freebsd-gecko@freebsd.org, "Jan Beich" <jbeich@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-dtrace@freebsd.org" <freebsd-dtrace@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: DTrace issues?
Message-ID:  <27FA81DC-3939-4798-AB4D-C4BBE86B6AAB@neville-neil.com>
In-Reply-To: <CA%2BU3Mf4y4yyqdmXiHANniu3eeYF5WMhd8jXMiWGs13Z3a3-=OQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 17 Apr 2017, at 16:28, Sevan / Venture37 wrote:

> On 17 April 2017 at 20:54, Ryan Stone <rysto32@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 10:50 AM, George Neville-Neil 
>> <gnn@neville-neil.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Can you explain this grief?  What is the problem?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> George
>>>
>>
>> dtrace -G requires the ability to modify the object files in-place 
>> before
>> linking.  This causes havoc if the objects are in .a archives (dtrace 
>> can't
>> read those) or if the objects need to be linked into multiple 
>> binaries.  It
>> also destroys the ability to do an incremental build, as dtrace -G 
>> can't be
>> run on the same object twice.
>>
>> The whole process is really a hack.  The build actions done by dtrace
>> should be done by the compiler and linker instead.  Getting the 
>> linker to
>> support the process would go a long way, as then dtrace -G could be 
>> run on
>> individual objects and most of my complaints go away.
>
> Not to detract from the issue with the -G flag, I just wanted to
> highlight that it's used for ELF binaries, until Apple switches away
> from Mach-o, this wont be an issue there (dtrace on OS X does not
> feature the -G flag).
>
>

Well at least I now "get" the issue.  Thanks.

Best,
George


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