Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 14:31:30 -0400 From: dennis <dennis@etinc.com> To: Richard Hodges <rh@alpine.net> Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Multi-homed - Load Balancing - No Single Point of Failure Message-ID: <3.0.32.19970814143126.00a97100@etinc.com>
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>My "typical" router is one T1 and one Ethernet. > >Etinc: (new) Ascend: (new) cisco: (used) >--------------- --------- ----------- > $550 5025 card $1025 Pipeline 130 $1200 2501 (used) > $125 cable $ n/a v.35 cable n/a $ ?? cable may be included > $400 DSU/CSU $ n/a DSU/CSU $ 400 DSU/CSU >---- ------ ----- >$1075 (w/o host) $1025 ready to go $1600 ready to go > >+ $50 to add F/R + 0 included $ 0 included Well, almost..its $585. for a card and a cable (Perhaps you confused our cable with Cisco's?), and $375 for a CSU/DSU, so you are talking $960. Of course you can do 100Mbs, expand, put lots of memory in it and do lots of things with the BSD router that you cant do with the aforementioned options, and when you get into density and 100Mbs nets the FreeBSD box is a significant savings and a lot more horsepower (a 200mhz PC with dual 100Mb/s cards and a quad pci sync card will easily outperform a similarly equipped 4000 series at < 1/5th the price. For slow, single port routers....yeah, you may be right. Of course no one makes any money on a low-end router anyway, so who cares? >Yes, I *DO UNDERSTAND* that *BSD is much more powerful for >routing... But I know how to set up cisco and Ascend. This, is a personal problem. If you *don't* the learning curve is similar. > >Your web page documentation could benefit greatly if you would put >your manuals, tips, and configuration information online. You see, >I want to know everything about the job *BEFORE I BUY*. If you're talking to ET, it IS up there, so perhaps we're on a different wavelength. > >If I could get your basic 5025 with cable for $250 to $300, I would >probably get one for experimentation. And it everything went well, >start using your products instead of cisco and Ascend. But I am not >going to spend close to $700 just to find out. Heck, I just got 2 >used Pipeline 130 routers (T1/ISDN) for less than $700 each... Perhaps, some day, when we are really hard up for business we will consider such a *program*.... :-) But for now things are pretty much booming.... > >I hope you don't take this as a grip, but if you do, please consider >it that I really would like to try your products... but the price is >too high and I need a chance to build confidence in them. The price is *approproiate*. For $300. its not worth the trouble dealing with you...If you want a used card (COD certified) with no support and no warranty and no upgrades then maybe we can talk :-) Dennis
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