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Date:      Thu, 04 Jun 2020 21:20:11 +0000
From:      Nazim Can Bedir <nzmjx@protonmail.com>
To:        freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: newfs(1) on a file
Message-ID:  <1e6f811b-768b-0382-ff7e-54f0128cb876@protonmail.com>
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Linux is able to perform `swapon ./file`, FreeBSD isn't.

Then, go fuck and use Linux. No body gives a shit about you and your=20
fucking preferred system. And, stay with Linux: asshole!

Again, I don't like this way of thinking. First, it goes again the Unix phi=
losophy. Second, there is a clear separation between (a) creating, attempti=
ng to repair or debugging an instance of a filesystem, and (b) mounting a f=
ilesystem, thus connecting it to the kernel's filesystem-system -- a highly=
 flammable area --, which practically assumes that the instance is well-for=
matted, and demands exclusive write access.

Then, your problem is you are trying to live in a world where you don't=20
understand. It doesn't work in real life, and it doesn't work in Unix=20
either. So, go fuck yourself.


Did I say "Go fuck yourself, and never come back!"? Sorry, I am not=20
smart enough.


If my country there is a saying: "If you know better, then prove it. At=20
least, we can use the better one." Otherwise, shut the fuck up and find=20
another list to shit-post! In this list, there is only one dick who can=20
shit-post and guess who he is? So, seriously my friend, FUCK OFF!

Regards,
Nazim Can.


On 05/06/2020 00:14, goatshit54108@national.shitposting.agency wrote:
> On 6/4/20 5:04 PM, Nazim Can Bedir via freebsd-fs wrote:
>> in order to include efficient and proper caching of disk
>> blocks into the equation, damn filesystem backing stores need to be
>> exist as devices.
> I find that hard to believe, at least with that exact wording. An alterna=
tive "Sorry, but all current FreeBSD-kernel filesystem-code is designed onl=
y with underlying block devices in mind, so some work is needed to handle o=
ther cases." sounds acceptable.
>
> The caching strategy mainly depends on the filesystem type, its implement=
ation, and the settings. For some "filesystems", such as swap spaces, cachi=
ng is specifically to be avoided.
>
> Linux is able to perform `swapon ./file`, FreeBSD isn't.
>
>> if mount command couldn't mount a GAY filesystem from the file
>> as-is, then newfs(8) command shouldn't allow to create filesystem on
>> file as-is (otherwise, idiot FreeBSD users like me could think that
>> "aah, if newfs initialises filesystem on file without md, then it must
>> be able to mount without md).
> But newfs *is* able to create a filesystem on a regular file.
>
>> I really don't understand what is the damn problem here? Filesystem
>> operations are performed on special files (a.k.a disks); and md kernel
>> driver does exist for that purpose.
> Again, I don't like this way of thinking. First, it goes again the Unix p=
hilosophy. Second, there is a clear separation between (a) creating, attemp=
ting to repair or debugging an instance of a filesystem, and (b) mounting a=
 filesystem, thus connecting it to the kernel's filesystem-system -- a high=
ly flammable area --, which practically assumes that the instance is well-f=
ormatted, and demands exclusive write access.
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