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Date:      Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:15:44 -0700 (PDT)
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        (Hellmuth Michaelis) <hm@hcs.de>
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@starjuice.net>, re@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc/defaults rc.conf
Message-ID:  <XFMail.010815091544.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010815133221.7EB87529@hcswork.hcs.de>

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On 15-Aug-01 Hellmuth Michaelis wrote:
> From the keyboard of Sheldon Hearn:
> 
>> >   The correct way to handle this would be to add support for ispppcontrol
>> >   to /etc/rc.network but IMHO we are too close to a release so i will not
>> >   touch /etc/rc.network anymore.
>> 
>> Well the MFC is going to cause trouble for people.  So either you need
>> to back out the MFC or do something sensible with existing
>> configurations.
> 
> This is a reasonable opinion, but not my opinion. My opinion can be read in
> the paragraph above and is based on the reaction of real i4b users, talking
> to the sppp developer and a null-reaction to a post to -stable (as suggested
> by Murray) on the subject.

We aren't supposed to break -stable API's and what not.  The MFC should have
included _all_ of the needed changes.  This should really be fixed before the
release one way or another.

> Anyway, if the release engineer allows me to integrate support for 
> ispppcontrol into rc.network at this point in time, i'll be happy to do it.
> 
> Backing out the whole i4b MFC because of this is - sorry - nonsense.

Backing out changes in -stable because an API or user interface is broken is
nonsense?  That's one of the main characteristics of -stable:  not just
stability as far as not crashing, but stability in APIs and user interfaces. 
You can add new APIs, but you shouldn't break old ones.

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