Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 20:30:34 -0700 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org> Cc: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>, "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, Takahashi Yoshihiro <nyan@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r312910 - in head: . etc/etc.pc98 etc/rc.d lib/libsysdecode libexec release release/doc release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/readme release/doc/share/example... Message-ID: <CANCZdfpz_ocK5ViaaGfAqr6UfWsnfqvmc=oK4xas19MZK-mLeg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1485986136.3017.89.camel@freebsd.org> References: <201701280222.v0S2MFSR022477@repo.freebsd.org> <3458844.3oruRKbrzH@ralph.baldwin.cx> <20170201103555.GA79121@zxy.spb.ru> <12386326.7GSpFTXsMZ@ralph.baldwin.cx> <20170201170950.GF79121@zxy.spb.ru> <20170201213956.GA3765@lonesome.com> <20170201215007.GA37974@zxy.spb.ru> <1485986136.3017.89.camel@freebsd.org>
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On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Thu, 2017-02-02 at 00:50 +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 03:39:57PM -0600, Mark Linimon wrote: >> >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:09:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: >> > > >> > > Also, I am think current ports don't build on 4.x. >> > I will personally guarantee, in writing, that current ports do not >> > build >> > on 4.x, nor have they done so for years. I personally removed the >> > legacy >> > cruft when 4.11 finally went EOL. >> > >> > > >> > > I am got complains about using ports on 8.x. >> > I am 99% certain that ports will not work on either 8.x or >> > 9.x. Legacy >> > cruft was removed at the EOL in each of those cases. >> > >> > Anyone who think that we can support ports on 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, 7.x, >> > 8.x, >> > 9.x, 10.x, 11.x, and -current, all at the same time, needs to seek >> > medical >> > attention at once. At the absolute least, that era spans 3 major >> > versions >> > of make(1) and two completely different package implementations. >> I am assume no problem to use new make on old system. >> May be posible use pkg too (not sure about pkg requirements to >> syscalls). >> > > I can't say anything about 4.x, but I have no problems building current > ports on 8.2. I have backported a few crucial changes to make, like > handling :tl and :tu, and that's about it. It may not be officially > supported, but it's not hard to make it work for those who have a need. > > I also still support systems that use true ISA-slot hardware, but that > doesn't include any storage or network controllers. Mostly the ISA > cards are proprietary things, plus one ancient 8-port uart expansion > card that amazingly still works and can still be purchased. Yea, but those systems aren't quite pure ISA systems. They are SBCs with an ISA interface, but with PCI NICs and built in IDE controllers. We're not talking about breaking those. Your systems have 64MB or more of RAM, which is enough to run FreeBSD (should you guys ever forward port). Though, to be honest, I'm not sure if UART would work with that particular card... All the proprietary cards that I recall should still work, though there may be some hassle with the network stuff one of them does. Warner
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