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Date:      Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:57:16 -0400
From:      Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
To:        Dan Nelson <dnelson@allantgroup.com>
Cc:        Sean McNeil <sean@mcneil.com>
Subject:   Re: weak implementation of threads has problems - kse fix attached
Message-ID:  <1086717435.68846.9.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com>
In-Reply-To: <20040608154510.GB89198@dan.emsphone.com>
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On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 11:45, Dan Nelson wrote:
> In the last episode (Jun 08), Kris Kennaway said:
> > On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 11:48:45PM -0500, Dan Nelson wrote:
> > > In the last episode (Jun 08), Daniel Eischen said:
> > > > No, I don't want to litter all our thread libraries with strong
> > > > references. As I've said before, build your shared libraries
> > > > correctly so they don't bring in the threads library.
> > >=20
> > > A good addition to bsd.port.mk, right next to the "possible network
> > > server" etc checks, might be to run ldd on all installed shared
> > > libraries and print a warning if any threads libraries show up.  Ther=
e
> > > are a huge number of ports that install shlibs linked to libpthreads.
> >=20
> > Some of these are probably correct, in that the library started using
> > libpthreads internally and there are a large number of clients that
> > would otherwise need to be changed to link to that library.
>=20
> I don't think you can have it both ways, though.  The rule is either
> "pthreads-using shared libraries should pull in a pthreads lib
> themselves" or "programs wanting to link to pthreads-using shared
> libraries should link with a pthreads lib".
>=20
> Attached are patches to add this check to the security-check target.=20
> Ideally they would be checked separately or flagged as something other
> than security problems, but that would require copying
> security-check.awk and a larger diff..

If we switched PTHREAD_LIBS to -pthread, we wouldn't need this.  Shared
objects would not have a link to libpthread, and shared objects that
really referenced pthread symbols would still require executables to be
linked to PTHREAD_LIBS (i.e. how it works on 4.X).

Joe

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