Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:19:04 +0100 From: Chris Rees <utisoft@googlemail.com> To: cpghost <cpghost@cordula.ws> Cc: "b. f." <bf1783@googlemail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The question of moving vi to /bin Message-ID: <b79ecaef0906240719s4a6f2f18g32a3bb85f46988b2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20090624140846.GB1974@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <d873d5be0906240613s1050323bpdd28aaedddf2cb9d@mail.gmail.com> <20090624140846.GB1974@phenom.cordula.ws>
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2009/6/24 cpghost <cpghost@cordula.ws>: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 06:13:49AM -0700, b. f. wrote: >> > On Tuesday 23 June 2009 15:41:48 Manish Jain wrote: >> >> >About ed first. I might annoy a few people (which would gladden me in >> >this particular case), but ed was just one of Ken Thompson's nightmares >> >which he managed to reproduce in Unix with great precision. By no >> >stretch of imagination would it qualify as an editor, because an editor >> >can meaningfully edit only what it can first show. And ed has never had >> >anything to show. A modern operating system like FreeBSD should really >> >be kicking ed out of the distribution completely : bad ideas don't have >> >to be necessarily perpetuated just for the sake of compliance with the >> >original concept of Unix. >> >> If you want to make a case for replacing ed(1), you're going to have >> to come up with some concrete reasons for doing so, not just make a >> (long and hyperbolic) statement that you don't like it. > > Please don't touch/remove ed(1)! > > =A0* It's still very useful on non-curses/termcap capable terminals > =A0 =A0like raw serial lines etc. > > =A0* It's also very useful in batch/script mode, as there are some > =A0 =A0multi-line text processing problems that you can't tackle with > =A0 =A0sed(1) alone, and where awk(1) or even perl, python etc.. are > =A0 =A0overkill. > > -cpghost. > I may be mistaken, but isn't ed required for POSIX compliance? Chris --=20 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list?
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