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Date:      Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:22:41 -0700
From:      Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com>
To:        Peter Jeremy <PeterJeremy@optushome.com.au>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists_nada@tx.rr.com>
Subject:   Re: challenge: end of life for 6.2 is premature with buggy 6.3
Message-ID:  <05D1299E-D2F2-4FB8-BD0B-D30B29764612@netconsonance.com>
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On Jun 5, 2008, at 3:02 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> I agree that he has made those statements - and those statements may
> even be true.  When asked to provide details of the bugs or references
> to those problems, he has refused.  Random, unsubstantiated claims are
> hardly evidence of anything.

I didn't refuse, I said it wasn't relevant.  I also offered to provide  
the list and hardware and time resources for testing if any developer  
needed it after June 11 (ie when it was physically possible to do so)  
for anyone who wanted to chase the individual issues.  But the  
individual issues aren't the problem.  No single problem would usually  
warrant that kind of attention.  It's the overall amount of issues  
that concerns me.

> To summarise, so far the OP has made a series of unsubstantianted
> claims about vaguely defined problems on vaguely defined hardware.
> When asked for more details, he has refused.  Exactly what do you
> expect the FreeBSD developers to do?

Perhaps answer the question which was asked, instead of trying to drag  
the conversation down into specific bug reports?  No single specific  
bug report is relevant to the overall topic.  Fixing a single bug  
won't improve the situation.

Anyway, I've said this a dozen times now so I won't be repeating it.   
You are welcome to continue ignoring it.

-- 
Jo Rhett
Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source  
and other randomness





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