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Date:      Tue, 28 Aug 2018 17:34:08 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Dan Mahoney (Gushi)" <freebsd@gushi.org>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Cc:        cy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Cannot specify ntpd binary in ports with ntpd startup file.
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.20.1808281732590.3308@prime.gushi.org>

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1) Got the version wrong.  I'm on 10.4.

2) Forgot a subject.  Whoops.

3) Forgot to cc maintainer.  Doh!

-Dan

On Tue, 28 Aug 2018, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Funny question.  I'm on FreeBSD 11.4, and would like to use the latest 
> version of NTP, which is in pkg.
>
> The version in pkg doesn't have a startup script, which I'm not sure is 
> supposed to be the case.  I know for things like BIND (when it was both in 
> base and in ports) you could override the binary in /etc/rc.conf.
>
> However, the version of /etc/rc.d/ntpd in BASE doesn't seem to have the 
> ability to override the binary in rc.conf:
>
> name="ntpd"
> rcvar="ntpd_enable"
> command="/usr/sbin/${name}"
> pidfile="/var/run/${name}.pid"
> extra_commands="fetch"
> fetch_cmd="ntpd_fetch_leapfile"
> start_precmd="ntpd_precmd"
>
> What's weirder, is even if I manually modify the /etc/rc.d/ntpd file to point 
> at /usr/local/sbin (which I should never have to do), the version in 
> /usr/sbin gets started.
>
> root@vortex2:/etc/rc.d # service ntpd start
> Starting ntpd.
> root@vortex2:/etc/rc.d # ps auxwww|grep ntpd
> root     36362  38.3  0.2 26192 18132  -  Ss   12:17AM    0:04.73 
> /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntpd.drift
> root     36364   0.0  0.0 18844  2328  1  R+   12:17AM    0:00.00 grep ntpd
> root@vortex2:/etc/rc.d # grep command ntpd
> command="/usr/local/sbin/${name}"
> [...]
>
> So, asking as a port maintainer, a few questions:
>
> 0) Why the heck is it doing this even when I override the path?
>
> 1) How can we encourage base to allow override of command_name?
>
> 2) Is this a brokenness in the port that it doesn't ship with a startup file?
>
> 3) Not strictly related, but what's the proper case for pathing since things 
> like "ntpq", the base path would naturally be found in any standard $PATH. 
> Some ports used to have an overwrite_base option, but this also feels wrong 
> as it breaks freebsd-update in various ways.  I.e. should the port print a 
> message stating that you should chmod 000 the original binaries?  Should the 
> ports versions be named something different?  Should the port just warn you 
> that you need to call these things by absolute path, always?
>
> -Dan
>
>

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