Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 14:48:23 +0200 From: rank1seeker@gmail.com To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, "Alexander Leidinger" <Alexander@Leidinger.net> Subject: Re: Improve OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc Message-ID: <20101005.124823.093.1@DEV> In-Reply-To: <20101005113423.10801orcw6xef9s0@webmail.leidinger.net> References: <AANLkTikXQmzE4r8wNbxp_Xp7u-5URj66DrOfC1JaK5jA@mail.gmail.com> <20101004122325.11342p9v1rnwp6w4@webmail.leidinger.net> <AANLkTimYCA3rRHgbtjPX=sGHd2mXURHBotNB=KHJi9AR@mail.gmail.com> <20101004123629.GA4308@straylight.ringlet.net> <AANLkTimWMUFrj1OfUVEaPKactWr9sWJhvVW2MfDPSB7T@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTimsaWe-ZyUNW0Teg=%2B7w4TR=4hoOTk%2BeBOdHqSO@mail.gmail.com> <20101005113423.10801orcw6xef9s0@webmail.leidinger.net>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
To: Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi@gmail.com>
Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 11:34:23 +0200
Subject: Re: Improve OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc
> Quoting Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi@gmail.com> (from Tue, 5 Oct 2010
> 01:30:00 +0200):
>
> > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 10/4/10, Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net> wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 11:01:45AM +0000, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> >>>> On 10/4/10, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> > At least status-mailq is still useful with other MTAs, e.g. if you use
> >>>> > postfix (and assuming the mailwrapper is configured correctly), this
> >>>> > should still work. Depending on the setup of the aliases,
> >>>> > backup-aliases will still work too. I haven't checked for the other
> >>>> > ones.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you want to keep some "old" files, you just need to press `n' instead
> >>>> of `y'
> >>>> when deleting files. You are not forced to run make delete-old at all.
> >>>
> >>> On the other hand, doing this (skipping those files) on each and every
> >>> system
> >>> update (say, on a development or testing machine) could get a bit... boring
> >>> -
> >>> not to mention that at some point you'll learn to "oh, just say no", and
> >>> then
> >>> forget to remove something important.
> >>
> >> Oh! I see... I want it in black.
> >
> > Hold your horses there ... get it to work as expected and then,
> > _and_only_then_ you can start raising your finger and accussing poster
> > of bikesheding ...
> > As it stands, _it_sucks_ and I have already pointed it out before
> > without much success (something as useless as telnet wasn´t deleted a
> > not so long time ago) ... Peter Pentchev´s point was a completely
> > valid one.
>
> As the one who wrote the functionailty: The delete-old stuff is
> designed to delete stuff which was installed by an installworld (or
> similar) before, but is not installed by installworld (or similar)
> now. As there may be old programs around which depend upon such a file
> or directory, you have to explicitely tell if you are ok to delete it
> or not (it is the responsability of the administrator to make sure
> everything is OK). If you are sure no program still depends upon it
> (make check-old), you can specify -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES to delete
> everything without being asked (see "man build").
>
> As we've read in this thread that the files I would like to keep are
> not installed by an installworld if the corresponding option is
> specified, the patch is 100% correct and Peter and you want to use
> delete-old for something it was not designed for (and I should discuss
> somewhere else to install the files I talked about even if the
> corresponding option is specified).
>
> Bye,
> Alexander.
~2 months ago I've opened a thread called: Deinstalling parts of base
Take a look here:
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=17860
Domagoj
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