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Date:      Thu, 14 Aug 1997 12:33:51 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Mike Andrews <mandrews@termfrost.org>
To:        hardware@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: K6-200 Has anyone successfully done a 'make world' ?
Message-ID:  <Pine.NEB.3.95.970814121615.6637A-100000@mindcrime.termfrost.org>
In-Reply-To: <199708120518.BAA05117@sabre.goldsword.com>

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I'll throw in my two cents on this...

Running Intel Pentium 120 and 133 chips on the same boards worked fine.
I bought two Asus T2P4 boards and two K6-200's.  The K6's were
backordered, and so I ran an Intel Pentium 120 and 133 in the boards.  No
problems with "make world".  Once the K6's were installed, I started
having the same problems everyone else here has: 'as' getting corrupt
input and dying, gcc internal errors, sig 11's, sig 6's....  you name it.

One of the machines also had Windows 95 on it, and I noticed many more
GPFs than even usual...  Even DOS-extender programs, like MAME, started to
misbehave and crash.  I decided pretty quickly that it didn't have
anything to do with FreeBSD...

I had my vendor get me a third MB/CPU, this time as a PRETESTED set from
his vendor.  Much to my surprise, the thing worked.  Even more to my
surprise was that there wasn't any heat sink paste on it, and I'd also
forgotten to plug the CPU fan in.  Yet it had survived half a dozen make
worlds.  Weird...

I started swapping chips and fans around, and found at first that the
first two chips would run great in the new board, but after a few swaps
even the known good chip started to fail, even after everything was
restored exactly the way it had been on the pretest set.  Argh.

By the time I'd gotten done doing all this, Intel had dropped their
prices...  so I (very grudgingly!) returned the pretest set and the other
two K6's, and got a pair of P200-MMX's.  Even overclocked to 225mhz
(3x75), they've passed every torture test I can throw at it, including
many dozens of "make world"s. 

Specifics:

            CPU Model: K6-200
          Motherboard: Asus P/I P55T2P4 v3.10
              Chipset: 430HX
             L2 Cache: 512K
        System Memory: 64M true parity (tried with 32M EDO also)
        HD Controller: Asus SC875 (NCR 53c875)
          Hard Drives: Seagate ST15230N, Quantum Fireball TM3200S [System #1]
          Hard Drives: IBM DORS 32160 [System #2]
                 Bios: Award v0203 (first K6-supporting rev)
 Switching/Linear VRM: dunno, I assume linear based on what I've read
    HS Grease Applied: usually; see above
             Fan Type: a green one that came in a pink box :)  Don't know
                       the manufacturer exactly, sorry
           Make World: fails w/ sig 11's or with 'as' dying on garbage input
                       Also stability problems in Win95
General FreeBSD Stuff: occasional sig 11's outside of make world
      FreeBSD Version: 2.2-STABLE


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