Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 12:47:05 -0400 From: Robert Noland <rnoland@2hip.net> To: Zaphod Beeblebrox <zbeeble@gmail.com> Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org>, Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sch=FCtte?= <lists@mschuette.name> Subject: Re: Improving Syslog Message-ID: <1210092425.40346.2.camel@squirrel.corp.cox.com.cox.net> In-Reply-To: <5f67a8c40805060941n7d2882aayea7d72d0a76cd89d@mail.gmail.com> References: <481B7ED4.3020208@mschuette.name> <20080506171525.O52391@fledge.watson.org> <5f67a8c40805060941n7d2882aayea7d72d0a76cd89d@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 12:41 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Robert Watson <rwatson@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > > > This sounds like an exciting project -- while I recognize the concerns > > other have expressed about complexity, I think that complexity can be > > managed if done carefully. I'm not sure if you've looked at Apple's > > extended syslog, which among other things, includes a binary log file format > > making it more mechanically searched and managed, do take a look if you > > haven't. > > > ... and I'm not just saying this to be ornery, but what about test log file > formats is not mechanically searchable? Note that I'm not playing the XML > card here (I'm not an XML fan) but the only real draw of a binary format (to > me) is a small amount of innate compression (numbers and dates in binary > form) and the ability to have field separators that are not part of the > printable character set. UN*X has a strong tradition of text files that > work around these two limitations in a variety of ways --- and UN*X tools > are built with these assumptions. There's a strong set of reasons to > consider retaining text formats and continuing to improve our tools around > them. I don't think anyone has suggested replacing text with a binary format. Just providing an alternative for those who choose to use it. robert. > One way to strengthen the syslog format is to have syslog enforce a format > _and_ enforce that whatever field separator is chosen cannot be written > within a field. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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